Samsung to manufacture all Snapdragon 875 chipsets
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- AnonD-961600
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- 03 Nov 2020
5nm vs 28nm, the Arm A15 cortex with 4 times bigger Die ,core kicks even the S875 out off water.
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- dude111
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- 18 Sep 2020
Anonymous, 18 Sep 2020Yeah I know. Silly me for using logicI was just using your same arguments
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- 18 Sep 2020
dude111, 17 Sep 2020Nice try fanboyYeah I know. Silly me for using logic
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- 17 Sep 2020
Anonymous, 16 Sep 2020The anonymous clown who ignores all evidence and argues bas... moreAre you gonna said Nvdia run by Clown because their mistake so now they forced to used mediocre Samsung Fab LMAO, Congrats !!! You are biggest Clown in the World .
Qualcomm and Nvdia board executive members knew who is better than Clown like You .
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- 17 Sep 2020
dude111, 16 Sep 2020So your only metric to say one node is better than other is... moreI said different SoC manufacturers, not different fabrication companies.
You understood it wrong.
For example.
8nm Exynos 9820's GPU was more efficient than 7nm Kirin 980's GPU(Kirin 980 had more efficient CPU though).
That doesn't make Samsung's 8nm more efficient than TSMC's 7nm.
This is because of different SoC design. Not for fabrication.
This is why I said you can't use different manufacturer's SoC for fabrication quality comparison.
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- 17 Sep 2020
Easy. nvidia is acquiring ARM which literally every SoC manufacturer is using, and samsung does supply chips for nvidia so it would be rational for qualcomm to turn to samsung for chips since they're in a deal with nvidia.
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- Anonymous
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- 16 Sep 2020
Anonymous, 16 Sep 20201000 clowns written an articles doesn't make them Fact... moreThe anonymous clown who ignores all evidence and argues based on wand-waiving "GPU marketshare! hurr durr"
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- 16 Sep 2020
dude111, 16 Sep 2020lol right I provided a link with information about effic... moreAnd it doesn't support your claim.
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- 16 Sep 2020
AnonD-754814, 16 Sep 202014nm Samung node's transistor density is 32.9
and TS... moreSo your only metric to say one node is better than other is density?
And at the same time you say that we can't compare across different manufacturers, then what's the point of this discussion?
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- dude111
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- 16 Sep 2020
Anonymous, 16 Sep 2020You're side tracking did nothing to prove your point. ... morelol right
I provided a link with information about efficiency for you to understand why I said we may see an efficiency regression, meanwhile you just keep denying it and show no other data.
And I'm the hater here. What does that make you? A fanboy?
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- 16 Sep 2020
Why debating which node is better ? All chipset will be build according Qualcomm blueprint. So it mean samsung can provide the requirement that Qualcomm need. Or all least some compromised will not affect the perfomance for the chipset
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- 16 Sep 2020
dude111, 15 Sep 2020Actually 16nm FF from TSMC was slightly better than Samsung... more14nm Samung node's transistor density is 32.9
and TSMC node's transistor density was 28.8 , So that makes Samsung's node better.
You can't compare different manufacturers SoC for node efficiency.
Apple and Exynos CPU(until exynos 9810) was always very efficient. But Apple was crazy powerful even being efficient.
Same is for 8nm, 10nm and 20nm node.
TSMC actually turned up with 7nm process.
TSMC's 5nm process is better too.
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- Anonymous
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- 16 Sep 2020
dude111, 15 Sep 2020Why?
Samsung's processes are behind TSMC's. Th... moreYou're side tracking did nothing to prove your point.
Just blind hate from you still.
Although I learned something. I thought the 765g had a77 cores. So only exynos 980 gets the newer cpu cores.
But both perform overall to similar to really notice anything. With a small cpu and ux lead for exy and small gpu lead for snap.
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- 16 Sep 2020
dude111, 15 Sep 2020Actually 16nm FF from TSMC was slightly better than Samsung... moreAnd they were all less powerful and efficient then
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- Anonymous
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- 16 Sep 2020
Anonymous, 15 Sep 2020Alternatively, you could do 30 seconds of research and skim... more1000 clowns written an articles doesn't make them Facts
So who is the clown,The one who run Nvdia or You ...
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- 16 Sep 2020
Anonymous, 15 Sep 2020Nvdia holds 73% GPU market how come they don't came fi... moreWow. I got orders from one rich person.... but a more rich person came along so I should just ditch everything I've been working on and the agreement with the first company.
Cause that's logical and proper business....
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- 15 Sep 2020
AnonD-754814, 15 Sep 2020TSMC's fabrication before 7nm technology was way worse... moreActually 16nm FF from TSMC was slightly better than Samsung's 14nm FF on the iPhones 6S, at least on efficiency.
Samsung had some 20nm (still planar) SoC but i'm not sure if those are comparable to snapdragon 810 (I don't remember if Exynos 5xxx were using A15 or A57 at similar clocks) or if there are any metric whatsoever to retrieve that data besides Anandtech's articles from that era (without SPEC)
About 28/32 and above probably were but, I don't think is relevant to discussion considering that no SoC has been manufactured in that process since 2013.
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- 15 Sep 2020
Anonymous, 14 Sep 2020nice try haterWhy?
Samsung's processes are behind TSMC's. That's a fact.
"I had mentioned that the 7LPP process is quite a wildcard in the comparisons here. Luckily, I’ve been able to get my hands on a Snapdragon 765G, another SoC that’s manufactured on Samsung’s EUV process. It’s also quite a nice comparison as we’re able to compare that chip’s performance A76 cores at 2.4GHz to the middle A76 cores of the Exynos 990 which run at 2.5GHz. Performance and power between the two chips here pretty much match each other, and a clearly worse than other TSMC A76-based SoCs, especially the Kirin 990’s. The only conclusion here is that Samsung’s 7LPP node is quite behind TSMC’s N7/N7P/N7+ nodes when it comes to power efficiency – anywhere from 20 to 30%."
From anandtech.com review of the S20
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- 15 Sep 2020
Anonymous, 15 Sep 2020Nvdia holds 73% GPU market how come they don't came fi... moreNvidia is not even on Samsung's most advanced node; 8N is a refined 10nm process (hence the 320 & 350 watt draws on the top parts).