Asus Zenfone 7 Pro has the second best selfie shooter according to DxOMark

13 October 2020
Only the Huawei P40 Pro ranks higher for selfies.

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Nick Tagataka, 19 Oct 2020"you still think" A loaded question. I didn'... more*Front facing camera

Android Authority, 18 Oct 2020Forget about that one pic, you still think p40 pro is overa... more"you still think"
A loaded question. I didn't even imply that P40 Pro has got a better camera than Zenfone 7 in the first place.

Nick Tagataka, 17 Oct 2020The context in which you used the word "biased" s... moreForget about that one pic, you still think p40 pro is overall better than Zenfone 7 pro as far as front camera goes?

Android Authority, 17 Oct 2020"The common "pattern" I noticed was not limi... moreThe context in which you used the word "biased" suggests that you used that word to offend me personally rather than to have a constructive, meaningful discussion. To me it's an insulting term in most situations therefore in my comments I try my best not to use it. Why? Because when you're making arguments based on facts, the natures of people you're talking to should be least relevant. But the biggest problem here is that when I was giving the other user an answer for his/her question, you butt in a rudest manner, which is totally unacceptable.

"BTW, if you really think Huawei has better selfie camera than Zenfone 7 pro"
Did I ever claim so? I did criticise it for performing somewhat poorly (as far as I could tell from the samples) relative to the sensor size and pointed out how in ONE scene the output looks fairly poor compared to S20U and P40P, but that's it.

Nick Tagataka, 17 Oct 2020The common "pattern" I noticed was not limited to... more"The common "pattern" I noticed was not limited to the attitude towards me but like I said other stuffs as well, but that's ok. You can keep telling me otherwise as much as you want."

Other stuff? Like praising Xiaomi and Oppo? Lol never had a Xiaomi or Oppo phone.
Although they are bringing good devices to the market. I've mostly used Samsung.

"Like, which part of my comment do you disagree with? Come on, say it out loud. What you did was not a criticism, it was a pure insult. Or do you even fail to see the difference between those two terms? "

Calling someone biased towards a particular brand is an insult??? BTW, if you really think Huawei has better selfie camera than Zenfone 7 pro, one doesn't need to be an expert to know you are being biased.
Besides there are other people in this thread attesting to the fact that selfie cam of p40 pro isn't that good. Either ways, I don't judge camera quality based on DxOMark.

Android Authority, 17 Oct 20203 people have told you that? Including me? Lol. I just ma... moreThe common "pattern" I noticed was not limited to the attitude towards me but like I said other stuffs as well, but that's ok. You can keep telling me otherwise as much as you want.

"just be reasonable sometimes and learn to take criticism"
Another pattern that I just realised: Instead of pointing out which specific parts of my statements are flawed, those accounts usually rush to the personal attack, even if I give them logical explanations about what I have said.
Just like you did to me now - I suggested the other guy that DxOMark is using the different protocol for front facing and back facing cameras and that's the reason why the scores are different despite the identical cameras being used for both tests. This is an obvious fact and if you're a sensible person you should be able to agree with me, yet you couldn't help but vituperate me. Like, which part of my comment do you disagree with? Come on, say it out loud. What you did was not a criticism, it was a pure insult. Or do you even fail to see the difference between those two terms?

Nick Tagataka, 16 Oct 2020"Everyone", sure. 3 people who have told me that ... more3 people have told you that? Including me? Lol.
I just made an account here after being a daily lurker.

I just noticed a pattern of you being biased towards Huawei.
It's okay to be a fanboy, it's okay to have favorites, just be reasonable sometimes and learn to take criticism.
Besides, If more people are telling you the same, maybe it is true.

Android Authority, 16 Oct 2020Everyone on this forum knows you are biased towards Huawei. "Everyone", sure. 3 people who have told me that (including you) somehow all like to take a piss on everything Apple does while praising Android OEMs especially Xiaomi & Oppo, and on top of that they all use similar wordings and phrases in their comments. I'm starting to see some patterns here.

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Anonymous, 15 Oct 2020So you are saying same camera (hardware) and app (software)... moreYes depend to the quality attached to it,, they migth be the same but not the in performance

Nick Tagataka, 14 Oct 2020"How can a phone get different scores while using the ... moreEveryone on this forum knows you are biased towards Huawei.

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So you are saying same camera (hardware) and app (software) get different scores when shooting selfie and normal? and this same setup gets different pro/cons in each case? what is wrong with dxo?!

This is not right in my opinion.

Only because someone at Dxo prefers smoother selfies, they are trying to mislead customers into saying that Huawei P40 Pro has a better selfie cam.
Personally, even I despise the yellowish images from the RYYB sensor of Huawei main cam, but that does not mean that Huawei P40 Pro is a terrible shooter. It just does things in ways that I don't prefer personally.

Personal opinions have to be clearly captioned and not be a factor in determining the overall quality or ranking. If a photo is sharpened, it just means that the photos are *usually , captured in greater detail. There are tons of apps that can smoothen your face in post processing.



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I come here to read GSMArena's reviews, which I trust.

Not to read recaps of DxOMark's reviews, which I have stopped trusting.

Just saying....

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Kriegsherr, 14 Oct 2020In fact we are moving towards a situation where money dicta... moreYup💯🙌

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Nick Tagataka, 14 Oct 2020"How can a phone get different scores while using the ... moreThat's like saying person #1 scores you as a 1 / 10 while person #2 rates you a 10 / 10

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Buaha, 14 Oct 2020Just the thought of paying to gain an advantage or misleadi... moreIn fact we are moving towards a situation where money dictates everything. Some says that money is the second god while we are trying hard to make it the first.

LG Superfan, 14 Oct 2020How can a phone get different scores while using the same c... more"How can a phone get different scores while using the same camera?"
Different scoring criteria?

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Trainspotter, 14 Oct 2020Woah easy DxOMark ! You are making it too obvious that you ... moreOh, and more thing, just don't tell anyone, we prefer under the table 💰cash💰 suitcases if you want to be #1

Yes, that's the fine business strategy of DXOMARK alright

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Kriegsherr, 14 Oct 2020I guess even they don't trust because the moment someo... moreJust the thought of paying to gain an advantage or misleading test results makes me dislike the power of money even though we all need it but it is not like it's the most important thing in the world, thank God.