Nokia phones top Counterpoint's Trust Rankings: a mix of update speed and hardware durability

27 October 2020
OnePlus rates highly too. The analysts considered how many phones are running Android 10 as well as how often they get security patches. 

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  • 01 Nov 2020

Owner, 31 Oct 2020You making yourself sound so professional, but I am startin... moreWell i am profesional. Thanks for observing... Anyway, i'm the troll? Funny... your obsesion to comment and "share opinion" everywhere not xiugly, especially Nokia, can't let you live, but i'm a PAID troll? The thief is afraid of thieves. Yeah, Nokia comment sections are under attack mostly by the same trolls that support chinaware brands, most probably because they are affraid that Nokia can take them down, and hopefully in the near future it will do just that. Anyway what this little trolls don't know, because well, they are not capable of anything else but bashing, is that one can still see they come from the same IP-Adress even if they change names. So yeah, that claim of yours is nothing but an image this trolls try to make for Nokia, and you, in my opinion, are one of them. Constructive criticism is one normal and welcomed thing to do but bashing, and propaganda plus trolling has nothing to do with it and has nothing to do with good intentions or "sharing opinions". That is why me comes in, to answer to this nothings in a way they deserve. To you i was actually gentle... at the beginning, at least. As for "there are devices that don't do that"... well, you got used to it, probably, but at the end, who cares? I don't. Coming back at the beginning of your comment: yeah, don't worry... i will never call them or any other "brand" from China by their names, because of many reasons. One of them being my lack of respect for -after rain mushroms- thives, that call them self companies.

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    • tZ0
    • 31 Oct 2020

    Carol, 30 Oct 2020If you would have not started to claim how good is your xia... moreYou making yourself sound so professional, but I am starting to feel you are just a paid troll. My reason: Just go to the Nokia 8.3 comment section and see the way you replied to others. Replies like "I got minus two which is cheaper" when someone mentioned Oneplus is really 'matured' of someone that is calling others as kids. And I can even feel a tinge of desperation from your comments, which is pretty understandable seeing most opinions are not favourable towards Nokia nowadays.

    Regarding you accusing me of 'promoting' Xiaomi, please do yourself a favour and get yourself out of your prejudice cave. Not all Xiaomi phones receive ads, as evidenced from my global Malaysian set Mi 9 and Redmi Note 8 so I shared it here. I didn't even badmouth Nokia in my original comment, yet you came at me like a rabid wolverine accusing me all sorts of things. Please don't blame me for not keeping quiet because you made the first move to antagonize me. Just because you think Nokia is good doesn't mean others need to have the same way of thinking. But you seem to like to force others to accept that Nokia is better, which is very clear when looking back at your rants to other commenters. Your comments don't look like from a regular reader, more like a stubborn defender of Nokia.

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      • 30 Oct 2020

      Owner, 30 Oct 2020Oh, anyone sharing positive experiences about Xiaomi are &#... moreIf you would have not started to claim how good is your xiaonly and lie about ads, you would most probably not even be here, so none would talk about your "brand" in anyway. When.you come here to promote your... "brand"... then you can't wait for everybody to support your intentions. And you do that everywhere you enter, samsung and whatever. If you still not get the point after i write to you for the 3d time in 3 different ways, then well....

      As for samsung fe. I hate samsung software the rest would be ok, but well, why would i support a brand that also got up on others back? Pixel is no way better then nokia 8.3, nothing on it is, and the build quality is...meah. In the same time in europe Pixel 5 costs now more then 8.3 so yeah minding the fact that 8.3 is to be used everywhere you go, no matter what country you'll have covarage, plus great updates and camera, is a great value for money, when you see the obvious elephant in the room, when you see ads, data traking and cpu numbers, then nope, then your xiaduenly is "good". As i work in enterprise enviorments, i have other expectations the kids. And yeah i do not work for hmd nor for nokia. I just hate m that think their opinion and preference is more important then others. That think somehow they can manipulate and do propaganda everywhere they go. I would do this even in Apple comment section when i see such b''it comming from some people, i have also done it, the only difference i am not obsesed to go to those brands comment sections and brag about my device. So slap yourself into reality you need it.

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        • 30 Oct 2020

        Carol, 29 Oct 2020P.s. You can't accept the fact that not everybody want... moreOh, anyone sharing positive experiences about Xiaomi are 'propagandists' just because you think so? Is there any rule here stating a comment section only cater to a certain brand? Didn't know you are an admin here...So, users like me should just shut up when I read misinformations about Xiaomi being spread here and go back to 'Xiaomi section' to express it? You are really acting irrational and almost as if you are working for Nokia looking at your defensiveness.

        For example, when someone stated Nokia is overpriced you went full attack mode. Might I remind you Nokia is not just overpriced compared to Chinese phones but even to Samsung now. Just look at the inferior Nokia 8.3 against same priced S20FE and Pixel 5. You think the 8.3 good enough to compare against those two phones? Only if you are working for Nokia, you would say yes. Real people would buy S20 FE or Pixel 5 over the crappy overpriced 8.3 anyday.

        Pity, poor sales might be the reason keyboard warriors like you are needed by Nokia nowadays to defend them online.

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          • swI
          • 29 Oct 2020

          Owner, 29 Oct 2020Carol or whatever your name is, you are being a triggered h... moreP.s. You can't accept the fact that not everybody wants to settle for chinaware, commenting and bashing everywhere as much as you can, but i'm triggered?

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            • 29 Oct 2020

            Owner, 29 Oct 2020Carol or whatever your name is, you are being a triggered h... moreIf you want to "share" your lies...a sorry, your opinion... then stop doing it in a bashing, propaganda way in other brands comment sections. There are comments sections dedicated exactly for that, for "sharing" opinions with others about the "brand" you prefere. Do it there and stay there till i come to brag about my overpriced super-expensive, jucy Nokia device. I am Hypocrit? For what? For ignoring a brand that came out stealing others innovations and it's fans? Or for taking a shot on propagandist, trolls and bashers? Oh you poor guys, i really feel sorry for allowing myself to do that.

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              • swI
              • 29 Oct 2020

              Anonymous, 29 Oct 2020Xiaomi is the best performance price value. Are you drunk?I might be drunk but i recover...hard to say that about someone who's reading an "in your face" remarc and can't get the point.

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                • 6wN
                • 29 Oct 2020

                Carol, 29 Oct 2020If HMD is overpriced then xiaomi is highly overpriced, as t... moreXiaomi is the best performance price value. Are you drunk?

                  Owner, 29 Oct 2020Carol or whatever your name is, you are being a triggered h... moresorry, I was a Xioami user and I'm not lying what I've experienced carol said is right. right now I'm using Moto

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                    • uEy
                    • 29 Oct 2020

                    how about asus ?

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                      • tZ0
                      • 29 Oct 2020

                      Carol, 29 Oct 2020You bouth have seen so many ads you actually think is norma... moreCarol or whatever your name is, you are being a triggered hypocrite. When real Xiaomi users came out to say their phones never received ads in response to the commenters here accusing Xiaomi phone full of ads, you call them spreading lies and bias. Funnily, your replies/comments already showed how biased you are with name calling such as 'Xiacrappy'. Tips: If you can't accept other people sharing their experiences and opinions, don't come to a forum.

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                        • swI
                        • 29 Oct 2020

                        Owner, 28 Oct 2020Your comment is so true. I am using a global Mi 9 and Redmi... moreYou bouth have seen so many ads you actually think is normal or your just plaing trying here. Who cares about xiaomi? If you care about them, then go and praise them...in xiaomi comment sections. Who's stopping you? It actually puzzels me how some people bash products without using them and complain about the people responding to their comments in the same manner, i mean, really? Stop trying to promote xiacrappy in Nokia comments sections, it became laughable. As for ads, i can show you hundres of videos with people getting tired of ads, and that is just scratching the surface. It is enough to search xiaomi ads on youtube. You won't find ads for xiaomi, you'll find people who are trying to get rid of them from within the device. So stop abusing this forums with lies and bias, and whatever your intentions are.

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                          • 29 Oct 2020

                          Anonymous, 28 Oct 2020Really overpriced and weak phones. Go for Xiaomi instead.If HMD is overpriced then xiaomi is highly overpriced, as they are not more then 10$ worthy.

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                            • 29 Oct 2020

                            Owner, 28 Oct 2020Your comment is so true. I am using a global Mi 9 and Redmi... moreAnd the fact is?! It does give ads.

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                              • 29 Oct 2020

                              Kourimane, 28 Oct 2020Yes HMD global's Nokia have Android one but specs are... moreYeah, cause you used themm all and know better then everyone... hope you realise the exageration in yourcomment. By the way, you most probably never used Nokia android, that could explain allot.

                                Yes HMD global's Nokia have Android one but specs are very bad. Some of theirs phones are as a matter of fact unusable because their specs can't reach minimum for a good user experience. I am sad when I see what Nokia is doing now. Their phones are overpriced, they all years have a bad battery life and a crapy camera software. When they update phone they destroy this usability even mid range's phones. Nokia 2018 phones are the last well built they destroyed with bad optimisation of their Android 10 update. If I want to change my Infinix note 5 who reach Android ten I will never buy a Nokia phone's although I am Android one lover.

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                                  • Anonymous
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                                  • 28 Oct 2020

                                  Anders, 27 Oct 2020Wow. So the 3 people who bought an hmd phone trust hmd 😂😂That's a great achievement. 3 people paid much higher price for a lower spec device, they might have had some expectations and the devices satisfied them.
                                  The same is hard to say for other brands, where people adjust to the device because of it's price.

                                    I must say that Nokia is great. and I always trust that Nokia is always delivered the rock-solid Durability of a phone. But the management is still not at the top, especially on pricing & performance. design, they always notch it even it's not the best. and I'm sure Nokia will do better slowly even it's not the number 1 phone (in my opinion)

                                      cyber, 27 Oct 2020those tests are some kind of joke,hmd is building only crap... morehaha. got too much-eating salt? my friends got a Xiaomi and the other is Nokia. and my friend Nokia is cheaper than my friend Xiaomi. and you know what? one time my friend Nokia fell his phone from the 2nd floor and damn it only has scratches on the side. while my Xiaomi friend fell from the stairs, not too far, not too low and the screen damaged and almost popped off. have you ever tried to use Nokia? instead, you say it's the worst. you better respect them. Xiaomi is the beast at performance but can't handle the durability. and Nokia even though they still not really great at performance, they have solid rock durability of a phone. and my story that I tell this is a true event from what I see. and

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                                        • tZ0
                                        • 28 Oct 2020

                                        hmm, 28 Oct 2020It's not Xiaomi users who complain about ads in miui. ... moreYour comment is so true. I am using a global Mi 9 and Redmi Note 8 and never encountered ads. During my research before buying, I came across countless online comments saying Mi phones are full of ads. But after using both phones for 1 year, I can say most of the 'ads scare campaign' are overblown and originated from those that never used a Mi phone before. Sometimes I wonder these people might be just trolls or working for rival brands to smear Xiaomi.