What to expect from Apple's ARM-powered Mac event

09 November 2020
New MacBooks, of course, but macOS Big Sur is the linchpin. Also, not all ARM-based MacBooks are ready for prime time - we may get two or three.

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  • 10 Nov 2020

can't believe the 'new' Macbook Air looks just like my 2011 model. 9 years in tech is a LONG time... and that Macbook of mine already died 3 yrs ago!

    Annas, 09 Nov 2020They cant copy that...those arm windows devices are a shame... moresadly im not ios fan, no lock down os and power from internet is better to me

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      • 10 Nov 2020

      Microsoft did IT, 10 Nov 2020Have you seen iOS apps? Are iOS apps designed for mouse cur... moreSure, the iOS apps won't be usable on these new arm macs but they are not the main focus, apple is providing the devlopers with various tools to help in making the software. They are serious about this arm thing, unlike Microsoft. I may be wrong but knowing apple, they don't invest much in something unless they are sure that it will be succesfull.

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        • 10 Nov 2020

        I can't wait to send them more money! Bring it on!

          Anonymous, 10 Nov 2020Macs have the size for better thermals, bigger battery. So ... moreExactly, it's expected that the new MBP will come with even more powerful variant of A14/A14X - Instead of 2 or 4, it will come with 8 performance cores which I personally believe to be also clocked higher than those two due to higher heat dissipation capacity of a laptop form factor.

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            • 10 Nov 2020

            Have you seen iOS apps? Are iOS apps designed for mouse cursor with high density hotspots to click or are they simpler user interfaces for large hotspots to poke with thick finger tips? Only one naive guy can dream such compatibility. Yes not difficult to run iPadOS on an iPad with keyboard bound aka MacBook Pro ARM but you only will get an iOS gross app in a larger screen like an ugly iPhone app zoomed in a larger iPad. Not useful, it will be a flop, big regrets like the Universal Windows Platform (UWP) apps = failure, sad history.

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              • 10 Nov 2020

              Nick Tagataka, 10 Nov 2020One of many reasons Microsoft is reluctant about going all ... moreYes. On top of that, Apple have incentive to move Mac to Arm, so Mac can gain tons of iOS native apps.

              As for microsoft, the lack of Arm apps, no windows phone platform, makes little sense to go arm.

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                • 10 Nov 2020

                Nick Tagataka, 10 Nov 2020I'm definitely interested in seeing CineBench scores f... moreMacs have the size for better thermals, bigger battery. So the chip will scale up accordingly.

                Big Sur initial testing shows awesome internal gpu performance. But bad egpu performance. Hope they continue to improve external gpu..

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                  • Anonymous
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                  • 10 Nov 2020

                  Many believe that the Apple chip macs would be cheaper that’s the intel ones and still as fast or faster than intel. That means it may be possible to get a Mac Pro for less than 1000 dollars.

                    I'm definitely interested in seeing CineBench scores from those new ASi-powered Macs. GeekBench 5 already showed some promising results from A14X, but first of all it's still a tablet chip that will not be used for Macs, and the most importantly CB reflects chips' real life CPU performance much better than GB does.

                      vrvly, 09 Nov 2020Definitely want to copy Microsoft, but they cannot. Likethe... moreThey won't copy MS' awful job in ARM transition, that's for sure.

                        Anonymous, 10 Nov 2020this is very true, I really don't understand what went... moreOne of many reasons Microsoft is reluctant about going all out with Windows on ARM is that unlike Apple they (need to) value backward compatibility. There are still many ancient 2000/XP-era software that are used by bunch of companies (especially those inside embedded devices/database systems) and moving onto ARM architecture entirely would result in bunch of those apps completely broken and not running at all or plagued with bugs that would never get fixed by the original developers.

                        And of course, being less passionate about one project means less R&D will be spent for that particular project, hence their failed attempt.

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                          • 10 Nov 2020

                          Annas, 09 Nov 2020They cant copy that...those arm windows devices are a shame... morethis is very true, I really don't understand what went wrong with microsofts attempts?
                          They had a lot cut out for them.
                          Maybe they were just so satisfied with their surface lineup

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                            • 09 Nov 2020

                            vrvly, 09 Nov 2020Definitely want to copy Microsoft, but they cannot. Likethe... moreThey cant copy that...those arm windows devices are a shame that exist
                            the developer kit mac mini with an 2 years old chip is far better than any 2020 win10 arm device , like surface pro x etc

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                              Beethoven, 09 Nov 2020Im expecting new wireless charger magsafe PRO MAX A new cha... moreMad!!!

                                Adam, 09 Nov 2020What about Mac mini and iMac with A14T?I don't think those will be unveiled tomorrow - it seems that they will be coming next year.

                                  Definitely want to copy Microsoft, but they cannot. Likethey cannot xCloud.

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                                    • 09 Nov 2020

                                    What about Mac mini and iMac with A14T?

                                      Im expecting new wireless charger magsafe PRO MAX A new charger with stronger magnet than regular magsafe!!!!!

                                        ...A lot of selective synthetic benchmark numbers. So, the usual thing from Apple.