Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max aces DisplayMate test
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- 18 Nov 2020
Perks of using a Samsung-made display panel!!😂
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- 18 Nov 2020
The OP8 Pro has a JNCD of 0.4!
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- AnonD-731363
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- 18 Nov 2020
Massaker, 18 Nov 2020LoL... Nubia Red Magic has 2340x1080 resolution. Video-capt... moreMan but i am speaking about screen its self not a video recording.
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Anonymous, 18 Nov 2020Video has nothing to do with this. DM says they do not ... moreMan anyway there is plenty of brands which makes things far better apple ust copy paste as always.
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- 18 Nov 2020
Aldo, 18 Nov 2020Hello. My iPhone 12 Pro Max have a yellowish screen. As i ... moreYou don't have an iPhone 12 Pro Max.
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- 18 Nov 2020
AnonD-731363, 18 Nov 2020Wonder how much apple paid for so many lies to pretend as r... moreLoL... Nubia Red Magic has 2340x1080 resolution. Video-capturing capabilities have nothing to do with a screen.
P.S.: my Poco F2 can record 8K30 aswell. Still a way worse, than 4K @ iPhone 12 Pro Max.
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- 18 Nov 2020
Nick Tagataka, 18 Nov 2020I meant predecessor, I apologise.Okay understood. I didn't read the first reply anyway. My bad.
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- 18 Nov 2020
Nick Tagataka, 18 Nov 2020The OG Xperia 1 had a severe issue with targeting correct g... moreWho said it can't be fixed? Guys from xda managed to bring down the white balance to a DeltaE of 1.0 using the custom WB sliders, and even covered 97% of the sRGB.
You just need to find the proper solution for it. https://www.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-1-display-review/amp/
The increase in resolution is totally worth it if you're after for the highest possible quality you can squeeze out of any smartphone. Since phone screens get bigger each generation, higher resolution makes even more sense, and you can totally distinguish differences more than you do a few years ago.
Power consumption isn't a huge issue like it was before. In fact, higher refresh rate consumes much more power than higher resolution, and the only reason why the 5 II has better battery life is because its battery capacity is more appropriate for its size, while the 1 II is simply lacking a few more mAh to somehow equalize to its smaller sibling.
Brightness is not the main issue here, rather the reflectivity of the screen. And more than 1000 nits is just attainable usually in Auto mode when there's a lot of bright light sources. Not like you're always gonna have a flashlight pointing directly on your screen just go achieve that much brightness. Besides, I have tried my sister's S20+ already, and even watching HDR contents don't seem to increase its brightness to more than 800 nits, even if the scene depicted is already allowing it.
Having 200 nits less brightness is not a big deal unless you're living under the sun at all times. It's not a problem for HDR either, as UHD Alliance's required brightness is at least 540 nits, which pretty much every smartphone screen nowadays can achieve, even on budget phones.
Like you've said, they're not always going to be working at higher brightnesses, so what's the point of having them when almost all the time you're not gonna use it anyway? To have them is surely a nice thing, but that doesn't make the Xperia's screen anything worse, as Sony's choice to limit the peak brightness for preventive measures is much more practical and very consumer-friendly than the others. It's no wonder why Sony's OLED product devices have never been known for quality control issues whatsoever. Even on their first attempt at an OLED phone, they've nearly beaten Samsung's latest flagship during that year already, and the general consumers even picked Sony's screen in a blind test in comparison to Samsung's and Apple's flagship devices.
And just because they've mentioned their reference monitors, doesn't mean you should expect them to be exactly at the same level. Just like on the camera department, they only said that Alpha engineers helped develop the camera system on the phone, but it doesn't mean that the quality will be the same as on their professional Alpha cameras. In this case, the engineers who built and calibrated their reference monitors are also the same people who tweaked the phone's display, but it doesn't mean that everything else (brightness, color depth, color range, size, etc) will be the same as their reference monitors.
It doesn't mean that they won't improve it, rather they would take their time first to make sure that their next move wouldn't have fatal flaws.
If ever Sony improves the brightness levels on the Xperia 1 III, we can simply say that it's because they've figured out a way on how to prolong the panel's longevity to last long enough before you replace it. Surely it wouldn't experience burn in problems like what Samsung and Apple flagships typically end up with.
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- Anonymous
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- 18 Nov 2020
Nick Tagataka, 18 Nov 2020The OG Xperia 1 had a severe issue with targeting correct g... moreSony uses own standard.
This is why regular tools will never find values properly, especially for Gamma.
I think (not sure) Phone Arena was the site that has said it once.
Xperia 1 was already used as monitor connected to Sony Venice camera.
Also, the Xperia Pro that I suppose will be for sale this year.
https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/04/26/sony-venice-wireless-monitoring-with-the-xperia-1/
"The images looked extremely impressive on the Xperia 1 and the latency was also very good. Whatever Sony have been doing the color accuracy of the images being displayed on the Xperia 1 looked almost identical to those being output from the VENICE to an expensive reference monitor."
Now matter how much you search, you will never find photographers trying to use Galaxy or Iphone say way Xperia Pro is going to be used.
Funny how DM praises Samsung phones while ignoring same issues since S7.
Inability to proper display Red, it has orange hue.
Even if you set profile COLD nothing changes, still warm which makes white, gray and greens yellowish.
Easy test. Put Xperia, Galaxy and iphone beside any Bravia oled and play same video on all. I can guarantee Xperia will be the closest to the tv colour reproduction.
People that work on those $30.000 sony oled monitors used by sony pictures were also involved in the phones development.
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- Anonymous
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- 18 Nov 2020
AnonD-731363, 18 Nov 2020Wonder how much apple paid for so many lies to pretend as r... moreVideo has nothing to do with this.
DM says they do not think QHD or 4K makes difference on cellphone.
Weird because on Samsung reviews they never mention resolution is "beyond necessary".
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- Nick Tagataka
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- 18 Nov 2020
Shanti Dope, 18 Nov 2020Successor? The Xperia 1 III isn't even out yet, what&#... moreI meant predecessor, I apologise.
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Nick Tagataka, 18 Nov 2020Xperia 1 II indeed has a really good panel (except for low ... moreSuccessor? The Xperia 1 III isn't even out yet, what's your source for that?
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- Anonymous
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- 18 Nov 2020
Wily2020, 18 Nov 2020According to Samsung boys Samsung doesn’t give their newest... moreThese numbers are splitting hairs with the latest galaxy ones.
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Anonymous, 18 Nov 20200.7 Delta (lowest among all phones on Earth) is considered ... moreThe OG Xperia 1 had a severe issue with targeting correct gamma settings for sRGB and P3 colour space, messing up greyscale accuracy and (to a lesser extent) colour saturation accuracy as well. And no, it's not entirely fixable by WB adjustment.
As for all the reasoning why smaller, more densely packed pixels create less bright panel - You're absolutely right, but the real question here is whether increased resolution over 3~3.2K of other devices' display is really worth the extra power consumption and 200~300 nits brightness reduction. Remember, those displays aren't constantly set to 800 or 900 nits - they only boost up the brightness when it's absolutely necessary (e.g. When used under direct sunlight, playing back HDR contents etc), so it does not affect the speed of pixel wear-out as much as you think it does.
If Sony wants to convince people that Xperia's display is indeed "professional" grade, then it should have a display that *can* get just as bright as the real pro-grade monitor made for content creations, not the one that is actually capped at lower brightness level than most mobile OLED panels out there. Simple.
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- 18 Nov 2020
haaaa, 18 Nov 2020thanks samsung According to Samsung boys Samsung doesn’t give their newest screens for Apple. So even with old screen it beats Samsung new screens. Just shows how good Apple is!
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- 18 Nov 2020
thanks samsung
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- Anonymous
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- 18 Nov 2020
Nick Tagataka, 18 Nov 2020Xperia 1 II indeed has a really good panel (except for low ... more0.7 Delta (lowest among all phones on Earth) is considered mess?
Little secret. Playing with the R-G-B bar (0-250) you can achieve better results than Creator Mode.
About the brightness:
- screen has smaller area than other phones. 6,5" 21:9 is smaller than 6" 16:9. Smaller screen has smaller pixels.
- it has over 6 million pixels, other phones (including the QHD 20:9) do not even have 4,5. More pixels result in smaller pixels.
- considering that oled pixels are light emitter, the amount of light emission increases as pixels get larger. In english, it is much easier to bump brightness when screen is HD and Full HD or extremely large screen with large pixels.
- more brightness means pixels are creating more light. It generates more energy lost as heat. This will increase the speed of chemical reactions that degrade the organic components of oled display. Keeping your oled screen below 300 nits will delay the burn-in. You can see that burn-in happens more on flagships than midrange Galaxy despite low priced phones have much more sales.
1 ii can reach 620 nits. This is higher value than all other previous Premium Xperia. None of the other had issues outdoors. It seems much more a matter of reflection of the light than brightness itself. A need of proper anti-reflex stuff on the glass.
People did not complain about xz3.
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- 18 Nov 2020
Aldo, 18 Nov 2020Hello. My iPhone 12 Pro Max have a yellowish screen. As i ... moreYes. Had same issue. Corrected mine by turning off True Tone and night shift. Also under Accessibility settings, changed the hue settings and now it looks much better.
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- Anonymous
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- 18 Nov 2020
every new phone by samsung and apple will be the next "best perfect display"