There will be five Snapdragon 875-powered flagships in Q1 with 100W charging, says leakster

20 November 2020
The S875 chip will support Qualcomm's latest Quick Charge 5, which promises 50% charge in 5 minutes.

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  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 20 Nov 2020Xperia 5 II available for under 600 Euro. Mi 10 ultra ava... moreAgreed. Amazing phones are now within the premium budget segment and much much more accessible than before. Now it is really unnecessary to spend £1k upwards on phones and expect a huge leap in performance. If anything sometimes budget segment phone has the more desirable feature set such as expandable storage, bigger battery and better battery life.

  • Nepal

Waiting for a Snapdragon 775g processor phone

  • R.Rong

It's Snapdragon 888.

This technology is good for devices that get limited software support. The battery health will last as long as the phone.

Anonymous, 21 Nov 2020The problem is that you don't understand how modern da... moreThat depends on what you consider to be 'little heat'. Realme x2 pro with 50w got 40°c at 100%, with ambient of 30°c. Maybe you live in pretty cool climate.

Also, i dont think anyone will call these 'little heat'
https://youtu.be/GfVxbKX66r0

Mediatek sux, 21 Nov 2020I think i get what you mean by the 110% thing. Its to indic... moreI mean, from what I read, a battery normally charge until it reach a certain percentage of its normal capacity that for most would be 100%.
Then, through reduced current, even more is forced into it, though once it reach the maximum at this point, this is what your phone will show as 100%, but in reality, without this extra forcing the battery wouldn't have that much capacity, so in a sense it is overloaded/overcharged.
Like the Space Shuttle Main Engine who could throttle over 100%, and did it regularly.
Indeed it damage the battery, though whatever you do with lithium battery damage them anyway, simply existing already wear them...
But it obviously wear them more, hence why "charging at 100% is bad for the battery".

I found in my history this I read a while ago :
https://qr.ae/pNWZSO
where the guy say "In fact, 100% charge, as I understand it, on a small device is a lot like forcefully overstuffing a sack with electrons: the very last few % need a technique called trickle charging just so we can get that much usage capacity."

And basically this confirm it :
https://www.quora.com/What-is-trickle-charge-and-how-does-it-help-the-cellphone-battery
Apparently there is multiple meaning to the term "Trickle charging", the classical Wikipedia one mean to charge at the same rate as the battery (under no load) discharge, but it also refer to a low current charge that can force more amps hours into what would normally be the maximum of the battery.

But the thing is, we actually know nothing about batteries...
There are so many different versions of advises, some peoples say to stay in the 20% to 80% range, other say 25% to 75%, some say 40% to 80%, some say 30% to 50%...
Some say to never charge up to 100%, some say that charging it once a month at 100% is actually good, some say to charge it at 100% and keep it for few minutes on Trickle Charging is good as some battery life enhancing material become active during this time.
Some say it doesn't do anything if you don't stay too long at this percentage or over 80% in general, some say it will damage your battery while some other say it is totally okay to let the phone stay plugged at 100% overnight...
Some say fast charging is healthy and even on the long run won't degrade visibly much, some other say it will make a big difference in few months by ruining the battery capacity, while some say it is better to charge at low current (like with a 5v1A charger).
Some say any charger is okay as long as the voltage is correct while some say only a smart charger with all the basic safety should be used, and some say that the charger need to be the provided one.
Some say fast charging must always be done with the provided charger as there are special charging wave pattern, other say any fast smart charger can do the job.

This is a mess one sure thing is, heat damage the battery, for the rest, there is multiple peoples defending each methods, some bring maths and chemical reaction explanations to the balance, other refer to studies, other talk from professional experience...
But never everyone agree, even studies differ from one another.
So at the end, I can't just affirm that this is a true fact, but we commonly read that charging over a certain percentage arm the battery, so I believe that personally believe that explanation as it make senses.

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 21 Nov 2020The problem is that smartphones are in your hand (or you po... moreThe problem is that you don't understand how modern day Fast charging produces very little heat.

Anonymous, 21 Nov 2020The problem is that smartphones are in your hand (or you po... moreHe is taking about 41°C during charging, not during normal use.
Do you use your phone during charging? I wouldn't recommend it unless you are using BBK Electronics based fast charging tech.

Yes the phone gets a bit hot during charging but nothing worth worrying. On an average a couple of degrees above other phones with 18W-30W.
My wife is using MI 10 ultra since the past few days. I can assure you, it doesn't heat up much when using the phone.

MrHong, 21 Nov 2020We are talking about charging speeds not CPU temperature. ... moreEven for battery temperatures, 41°C isn't that high to cause damage.
Most flagship phones in 2020 are touching 45°C peak battery temperatures during charging.

Peak Temperatures alone don't matter but higher temps over a long charging time do affect battery. On Mi 10 ultra, By the time, excessive enough heat is produced, the phone is already full charged unlike iPhone pro Max with its long 2+ hrs charging time.

The OnePlus 8T with 65W charging stays as cool as 18W charging on iPhone 12 series.
I am not a Xiaomi fanboy but you certainly cemented yourself as a Xiaomi hater with that comment.

MrHong, 21 Nov 2020Do you trust those Xiaomi clowns? Android Authority has ... more1.lmao,you know nothing about battary
2.Speed of fast charging become slow at the end is normal in every fast charging phone.Xiaomi keep 100+W for a minute,then 80+W for a long time.
The 120W charging on Mi10U do slower than the one on IQOO5,because it is designed as 100w,then the COVID delay the produce and launch event from April to Augest,in those four months Xiaomi upgrade it from 100W to 120W.(I already see the 100W version with 40W wireless charging instead of 50W on release one)But jot as good as the one on IQOO(so basiclly you can think it is a 100
W.charging will slightly better speed)
3.I believe xiaomi better than you
4.Most K20Pro were sold in China,I hardly heard any case of fingerprint scaner problem on Chinese social media or IT news APP

  • Anonymous

Android Authority, 21 Nov 202041°C is very warm? CPUs are meant to handle much more tha... moreThe problem is that smartphones are in your hand (or you pockets) and there it shouldn't be much over the body temperature. Otherwise it's too hot for humans to hold. Also, batteries don't like hotness at all, and due to the way smartphones are build, the battery will be affected by those temps

MrHong, 21 Nov 2020We are talking about charging speeds not CPU temperature. ... moreSo should I call you Xiaomu hater?
IQOO have close 120w too

wbpwns, 21 Nov 2020Then why is this article such news lol? What's the ... moreSoC not limit the fast charging speed.
At end of 2021 we can see 180w level fast charging phototype made by Xiaomi and OPPO,and I think Vivo doing the same thing too.

  • Anonymous

Luz, 21 Nov 2020SD875 Better than A14?Wait for speed test and speak after it. I think it can beat Apple.

Android--Master, 21 Nov 2020200W Then why is this article such news lol?

What's the real supported max charging watts by sd865?

  • MrHong

Android Authority, 21 Nov 202041°C is very warm? CPUs are meant to handle much more tha... moreWe are talking about charging speeds not CPU temperature.

I'm pretty sure Android Authority is doing the test in a controlled environment. Some people would charge the phone in a hot environment.

But yeah you're a Xiaomi fanboy aren't you?

I wouldn't buy for that fast of a charge. Way too much battery stress for shorter phone life

Android Authority, 21 Nov 202041°C is very warm? CPUs are meant to handle much more tha... moreI think he meant the battery temp or phone outer body temp. Cpus definitely get much hotter than that. 41 on battery is pretty normal on high settings games though.

Demongornot, 21 Nov 2020Oh, waw, can't remember, I found this though while try... moreI think i get what you mean by the 110% thing. Its to indicate that that its pretty bad for the longevity right? Atleast thats what i got from the bottle analogy.

MrHong, 21 Nov 2020Do you trust those Xiaomi clowns? Android Authority has ... more41°C is very warm?
CPUs are meant to handle much more than that.
During long 4K60 video recording sessions, it can easily touch 60°C on other phones.
Same for high refresh rate gaming.