There will be five Snapdragon 875-powered flagships in Q1 with 100W charging, says leakster

20 November 2020
The S875 chip will support Qualcomm's latest Quick Charge 5, which promises 50% charge in 5 minutes.

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Mediatek sux, 21 Nov 2020>You have to know that battery when they are at 100% are... moreOh, waw, can't remember, I found this though while trying to find it back :
https://books.google.fr/books?id=chITDgAAQBAJ&pg=PA837&lpg=PA837&dq=batteries+in+pv+systems+Overcharge+13.1.1.1&source=bl&ots=QMJSauNtk9&sig=ACfU3U3Vtzu7fjZ_VAABnXH-jd-cNBb2ug&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=batteries%20in%20pv%20systems%20Overcharge%2013.1.1.1&f=false

But I remember I did read that while doing research about the ideal charge percentage, not the typical 20% to 80%, the 37% to 47% one, it was some deep search on advanced battery charging things, it may have been on Quora if I remember right.

I guess, the over 100% charging done in Smartphone Lithium battery is relative to, lets say a consumer battery such as in Airsoft or RC and other where the user is responsible to handle the charge himself while on smartphone the controller handle that.
And the 90% limit is based on the maximum, already squeezed over 100% capacity they may used to do and not the regular charge of a typical Lithium battery.
Though it make senses, battery capacity is a big issue in the smartphone world, it isn't surprising they push the battery over the top.

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    • 21 Nov 2020

    ericwang, 21 Nov 2020So here is a simple question:how much it will drop? Xiaom... moreDo you trust those Xiaomi clowns?

    Android Authority has tested the 120W charging. First, it is not really 120W charging, speeds will just drop after a while.

    Second during testing the phone gets very warm (41°C), which is a concern for battery life even if the cooling system is very good.

    Trust those charging cycle figures Xiaomi gives? Sorry Oppo is more reliable. Reason they didn't jump into the 120W bandwagon too quickly.

    Already cheating customers with the F2 Pro & Redmi K20 Pro fingerprint sensor debacle. Initially wanted to buy one but gave up.

      AnonD-909757, 21 Nov 2020Sort of, there are two things to know to understand : Firs... more>You have to know that battery when they are at 100% aren't really at 100%, they are like at 110%

      Where did you get this from? I thought brands, especially with the high speed fast charging tech actually show 100% when the battery is only actually around 90% charged to protect against wear.

        Realme, Xiaomi, OnePlus, IQOO & OPPO

          wbpwns, 21 Nov 2020What is the maximum charge wattage supported by sd865? J... more200W

            What is the maximum charge wattage supported by sd865?

            Just curious

              Anonymous, 20 Nov 2020On reddit communities you find many ppl saying their samsun... morePretty sure there must be way with which qualcomm might have avoided battery degradation at too much rate,otherwise people can buy cheap 10W chargers available

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                • 21 Nov 2020

                Anonymous, 20 Nov 2020On reddit communities you find many ppl saying their samsun... moreYou're mother is too old.
                My mom use WhatsApp & Youtube
                And she needs to charge her 5000mAh phone each day.
                She also still have her old phone to use when she charges her primary phone

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                  • 21 Nov 2020

                  Anonymous, 20 Nov 2020Expensive battery replacement, forget itSamsung & apple battery replacement is expensive

                  But xiaomi & realme battery is priced reasonably

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                    • 21 Nov 2020

                    [deleted post]Fast charging is important.
                    If after 4 years my battery is bad, I can buy new battery.

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                      • 21 Nov 2020

                      Xiaomi
                      Realme
                      Oppo
                      Vivo
                      OnePlus

                      .... This 5 is the most important brand for Snapdragon

                      Samsung..... It will use Exynos
                      LG.... It's not great anymore (after LG G2 is falling down)

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                        • 21 Nov 2020

                        SD875 Better than A14?

                          Anonymous, 20 Nov 2020Not so obvious as unit A is using outdated charging tech. ... moreHe will continue to speak ill about 100W fast charging since he is stuck at 10W.
                          Doesn't even understand how different fast charging tech works.
                          All his claims are validated in the Sony echo chamber, so he comes here thinking he'll get similar support for his outdated technologically backward viewpoints.

                            Anonymous, 20 Nov 2020It is not about being unsafe. Even phones can explode usin... moreSo here is a simple question:how much it will drop?
                            Xiaomi promise the MI10Ultra battary can reamain 90% battary capacity after 800 times charging with 120w
                            Thats mean,for normal people,they remain at least 4000mah after two years use.
                            Yes,5w charging may help battary remain longer,maybe 4300mah after two year use.But is it worth?You do have 300mha more battary capacity,but suffer from slow chanrging speed in two years

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                              TheLastOracle, 20 Nov 2020I want Samsung to make a chip similar to the Apple M1 in p... moreAnd if that things run on battery?

                              Goodluck with battery life.. there are reasons why cortex A55 existed.

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                                • 21 Nov 2020

                                The more fast charging phones the better. Only tools are against this tech.

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                                  • 21 Nov 2020

                                  Anonymous, 20 Nov 2020Is your first request that thing Sony has done since XZ1? ... moreSort of, there are two things to know to understand :
                                  First: You have to know that battery when they are at 100% aren't really at 100%, they are like at 110% or something like that, a special tech/protocole squeeze the maximum possible, a little as if you were to fill a plastic bottle with enough pressure so it inflate a little in order to gain more capacity.
                                  So stopping at 90% is probably to let the battery rest at a regular percentage, which is less stressful.

                                  Second : Storing percentage on the other hand is different, while at 100% the battery is at its extreme maximum and get degraded the most, any percentage will still deteriorate the battery on the long run, but around a certain percentage (it is around 50%) is where the battery self deteriorate the least, and it is basically at this level that if you don't plan to use your battery for long time, you should put it at, in fact most phones you'll buy have around 50% battery as they can spend a while without being used.

                                  The cumulative degradation difference between 50% and 90% can be worth it depending on quite a few factors.
                                  But the Sony implementation is way better than a phone who dumbly fast charge up to 100% during overnight charging anyway, mostly if the fast and single charge one keep stressing the battery when at 100%.

                                  The closer the intermediate percentage is to the storage percentage, the better, but there isn't any specific limit to tell which is which, but there are a lot of way to implement it, and some reasons to charge up to 90% rather than 50%, for example, if you take into consideration a user who wake before his alarm clock, to avoid him getting stuck with a lower battery percentage.

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                                    • 20 Nov 2020

                                    AnonD-909757, 20 Nov 2020Two key things here : First thing : Fast charge can be wi... moreIs your first request that thing Sony has done since XZ1? When you charge overnight it stops at 90% and restart few minutes before person wakes up.

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                                      • 20 Nov 2020

                                      Anonymous, 20 Nov 2020Xperia 5 II available for under 600 Euro. Mi 10 ultra ava... moreyou can even get the LG V60 refurbished for as low as 450 bucks

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                                        • Anonymous
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                                        • 20 Nov 2020

                                        Expensive battery replacement, forget it