Galaxy S21 unlocking options to include Bixby Voice

25 November 2020
We're assuming Samsung would only do this to remind people that Bixby still exists.

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  • 02 Dec 2020

Anonymous, 02 Dec 2020Judging by your obvious disdain for Samsung, I'm assum... moreBecause the same way that everyone copied Samsung and now have the same camera setup, punch holes and half of high-end phones with curved edge displays, the bad practices Samsung have is also copied by others.
Just because you don't understand someone doesn't mean this person is unstable.

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    • AnonD-909757
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    • 02 Dec 2020

    Anonymous, 02 Dec 2020"This is why Android brands removed the 3.5mm Jack&quo... moreThere should be none except if the phone physically can't or if there is a good/real excuse.
    And tell me, how many flagships still have the 3.5mm Jack ?

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      • Anonymous
      • Nxm
      • 02 Dec 2020

      AnonD-909757, 26 Nov 2020Hahahahaha Samsung is a joke ! They went from Iris scanni... moreJudging by your obvious disdain for Samsung, I'm assuming you don't use Samsung products, so why get all worked up over the security in a phone you don't even use? You sound unstable, man. Relax.

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        • Anonymous
        • Nxm
        • 02 Dec 2020

        AnonD-909757, 27 Nov 2020You are the one saying it is agressive, I just asked, not s... more"This is why Android brands removed the 3.5mm Jack". Umm, what? There are still plenty of Android phones with headphone jacks. And stop saying "peoples".

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          • AnonD-909757
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          • 27 Nov 2020

          Anonymous, 26 Nov 2020No I'm not offended. Maybe you? Because this article i... moreYou are the one saying it is agressive, I just asked, not stated.
          And both are totally related, it is because of things like this that they removed sensors.
          The greatest exemple is Google with the Pixel 4 and 4XL where they removed the fingerprint scanner only because they added 3D facial recognition, there is no reasons to remove one to add the other, in fact I am sure it is something many love about Huawei flagships.

          Literally "uninterrupted display" was created to design phones without punch holes and notch.

          Yes, it is a gimmick, many things are a gimmick, and that's fine, the issue is that as the punch hole and notch right now, this thing will flood the market and drown even more other alternatives, this is a big issue.
          Yes, that's what I would like to do, when I'll replace my phone, being able to find one without a constantly watching front camera, like pop up, slider, or no front camera at all, but Underdisplay Camera will make it hard as, like I said, it will further kill alternatives, many will justify that pop up should disappear "because we have underdisplay camera".
          And I am not assuming, there isn't a week without a privacy related scandal in the news, and it is because of pop up camera that we learned that many apps and websites do take illegal picture and came up with excuses such as "the code for camera triggered the front camera" while nor the camera app nor any video call apps do that without explicitly enabling the front camera.

          You can't infinitely improve UDC tech, there is also a point where you need to choose between camera and display quality, but ToF or Structured Light 3D facial recognition both relying on projecting IR light will always have issue with a non glass like transparent material, there will always be loss.
          Also I don't think you realize how bad the RAW image quality is, any pic from UDC we saw are filled with artifacts that are clearly consistant with extremely heavy AI image reconstruction, I usually can barely tell if a picture is good or not (well I don't usually look into such details) but with UDC pics I don't need to look for those defects to see them.
          It is like trying to identify someone 10m away, during a really dark night, in the fog, with a little candle, that's what you ask underdisplay facial recognition to do, without AI it would never work.
          And even with 100% perfectly working 3D facial recognition, I still don't want this thing, I want my face and my environment to be hidden from the camera, not the opposite.

          That's actually totally wrong, like all smartphone company, they don't care about what peoples want, they all follow the same trend until a popular brand find a new thing, it is particularly true since the iPhone X introduction, before that, Android smartphone were really diversified, it was actually one of the biggest selling point of Android, to be able to customise and find what we want in an ocean of diversity vs Apple who made basically the same phones with improvements but not much differences.
          This is why Android brands removed the 3.5mm Jack, because Apple did so, there is no single justification to do so otherwise except on a too thin or specialized phone.
          Peoples clearly want to Jack back, in fact OnePlus ran a poll on a social media asking if peoples wanted or not the Jack, the vast majority voted for the Jack, still the OnePlus 8 series doesn't have it, same thing for Always On Display.
          A HUGE amount of peoples don't want or even hate curved edge display, yet around half of the flagships (which is WAY TOO MUCH) have one.
          The number of peoples that would take bezel, pop up, or no front camera like flip up or second display on the back or just no front cam at all would shock you, a LOT of peoples don't want punch holes and notches, probably an overwhelming majority.
          No one on earth want a phone with a 2Mp sensor, for depth sensor it is arguable, but for Macro, no one ever want that, and a good 12Mp sensor like the Sony IMX 380 cost like 10$ it would be pocket change to just put it rather than the 2Mp crap.
          Yet almost all phones have either a punch hole either a notch, half of the high end have curved edge display, a lot of those expensive phones also don't have the 3.5mm Jack anymore, and a huge number of them have 2Mp or the barely acceptable 5Mp sensor, same thing for sub 12Mp Ultra-Wide, when you know that Ultra-Wide with the higher field of view spread the number of pixels, making less pixel per degrees, if anything it should have a higher resolution than the Standard/Wide.
          This isn't what would happen in a world where any brand do listen to their customers, except for Sony who put the Jack back and keep their phones with flat display and bezel, but it might just be a refusal to change rather than actual listening to the customers.

          Like I wrote in this comment :
          https://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-46471.php#2186626
          There is a clear, big and easily visible difference between how the smartphone industry offer no diversity and how the automotive industry do offer a lot of it.
          One of the reason why there isn't any diversity anymore in smartphones is actually because of the complaining peoples, not general complains, constructive criticism are required, but rather when someone say he would want X or Y tech/feature, regardless if it is the worse or the best idea of the century, there will always be peoples complaining.
          Not just stating "what would it do in this particular scenario", but really stating "no one want that" as if they represented the whole world.
          Result, how can you estimate what is genuinely hated/disliked over what is just reply from constantly complaining peoples that can't accept the fact that other have different tastes than them ?
          The smartphone industry have other things to do than trying to sort out tons of reactions from real complain to egocentric peoples, which is probably the main (and possibly even the only) reason why Android brands started just copying each other rather than listening to what peoples want.
          For exemple, today I did read the comments on the Vivo NEX announcements, the first smartphone with a pop up camera, and there is a comment that basically sum it all :

          "At first, people were complaining about the notch, now that the notch is gone, they're complaining about a teenie-tiny bottom bezel that is just a tad bigger than the side and top bezels

          smh -_-"
          From : https://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-31510.php

          So, clearly Samsung and almost no other brand, I'd in fact couldn't stress enough that certainly not Samsung, OnePlus, Google and Apple, do follow demand, they just are big enough to know peoples will buy whatever they throw, so they don't care.
          And I quote those 4 in particular because they are the worst brand on the Smartphone industry with all their anti customers behaviors.
          I would love any of those 4 if they didn't do that, so it isn't something personal.

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            • Paul
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            • 27 Nov 2020

            What about deaf people can,t talk how work for deaf people who had Samsung phone ? Not fair for deaf people can,t talk ? I not think good idea.

              What would stop a HD recording of your voice from fooling the voice recognition software and unlocking it?

              I take it that there's an algorithm that can detect whether the voice is a live one or a recording of the voice of the owner.

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                • 26 Nov 2020

                Uncle D, 26 Nov 2020Samsung needs to wake up, most customers don't want th... moreBixby Voice is not bad, I use it all the time while driving.

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                  • 26 Nov 2020

                  Humm..Lets wait for S22.

                    Samsung needs to wake up, most customers don't want their shitty Exynos and Bixby stuff

                      Isnt this feature already exist on all S series and Foldable models

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                        • wongwatt
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                        • 26 Nov 2020

                        And that's why I'll never buy another Samsung, pointless bloat in every part of the phone.

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                          • Anonymous
                          • 7X2
                          • 26 Nov 2020

                          Still the fact that only US gets the Snapdragon while the rest of the world gets the crappynos @ a premium while it performs worse..... Oooooffff!!

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                            • 26 Nov 2020

                            I like Samsung but tbh Bixby is one unnecessary virtual assistant that Samsung is still trying to get people to use it the Bixby button is only useful once you remap it

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                              • Anonymous
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                              • 26 Nov 2020

                              AnonD-909757, 26 Nov 2020Agressive ? Are you one of those easily offended peoples ? ... moreNo I'm not offended. Maybe you? Because this article is all about adding Bixby Voice Recognition yet you started to complain about removal of sensors.

                              Well then if it is not "uninterrupted display" then I'll change to "Close to edge to edge full screen experience with no asymmetrical bezel"

                              UDC Gimmick? LOL! Privacy? I really don't know what to say. If you can't trust it then just don't buy it. If you assume something bad about the privacy then "sigh" I really don't know what to say to you.

                              Introducing and Improving the new and old technology will surely address your concern about the reliability of UDC Face Recognition.

                              DIVERSITY? Yes why not. But of course Samsung will prioritize and balance on things that is popular, in demand, and sell what they're trying to popularize. nd that can make tons of money

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                                • 26 Nov 2020

                                Companies, including Samsung, proudly claim in a hypocritical fashion that your privacy is very important to them. Yet, such blatant insecurity is offered as a feature. Anyone within earshot with another phone could record you and unlock your phone later, accessing everything you have on it. This is indeed worse than 2D face unlock, which was a feature all the way back in Ice Cream Sandwich (back when Android still named their OS releases and tried to be its own, customizable thing, and not the iOS knockoff we have today, with the disadvantages and none of the actually good things), which was removed because it was insecure. I think I also remember that you could unlock your device with your voice before, it was probably something by Google. Assistant, maybe? Don't quote me on that, however.

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                                  • 26 Nov 2020

                                  AnonD-762416, 26 Nov 2020Sure, but, I'd love to see him write this chronically ... moreYeah hating a brand shouldn't prevent us from seeing the bad in the one we like.
                                  Anyway all voice assistant are quite bad and extremely limited, we are far from a "sent the pic where I wear the funny yellow hat to John and tell him that I remember this night" kind of requests, yet it is what they should do, until they do more than making basic web search I'll consider them all equally bad !

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                                    • 26 Nov 2020

                                    AnonD-909757, 26 Nov 2020It's justified, it look like Samsung do everything the... moreSure, but, I'd love to see him write this chronically negative about that useless voice "assistant" he wants to prefer.

                                      That's an option on my Note 9 so what exactly is the change?