vivo with Snapdragon 888 does early Geekbench 5 test
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Doum, 04 Dec 2020have a concrete and comparable example? Knowing that a hug... moreThe concrete evidence is on the 3dmark scores and chong lius channel on youtube.
Now you give the 'concrete evidence' that majority of androids run on higher resolution. Higher screen res doesnt mean it runs at that res.
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Anonymous, 04 Dec 2020Nah I don’t have to accept your say so on which is better, ... moreReal world rests about A14 being beaten are anecdotal?
By your logic, Benchmarks and testing from Anandtech is also anecdotal.
Either ways Anandtech is super biased towards Greedy fruit logo company.
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Eximorph, 04 Dec 2020Tell me what game you can run in ios at 60 fps that you can... moreGame experience is way better as well because of dedicated cooling solutions, shoulder trigger buttons on gaming phones, higher touch sampling rate, lower latency screens, etc.
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Android--Master, 04 Dec 2020Anandtech's findings are pure therotical, far from rea... moreNah I don’t have to accept your say so on which is better, that’s pure arrogance.
Which is better for you personally maybe, but you speak for nobody else. Neither are you any kind of authority on the matter.
And these real world tests are nothing more than anecdotes. This article concerns Geekbench test results, so Geekbench test results are what are being discussed.
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Doum, 04 Dec 2020have a concrete and comparable example? Knowing that a hug... moreWhat is the use of Raw power in benchmarks when the cpu can't even push frames beyond 60fps due to lack of higher refresh rate screen.
And some people still think A14 is better... Better in what? On paper?
Are we suppose to live in some therotical world where "A14 would be able to produce more fps if it had higher refresh rate" ??
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Anonymous, 04 Dec 2020Well I can consider their findings or your ramblings, yeah ... moreAnandtech's findings are pure therotical, far from real world representation.
For example, a processor might be excellent in raw power but if it isn't coupled with good cooling, it won't perform to its potential. If it is running on unoptimized software, it won't reach its full potential. Analysing architecture and stating "which processor is better on paper" is completely different from testing it out in real world with real world factors involved.
Whatever I mentioned about A14 getting beat and throttling in heavy games is verified by real world tests not some irrelevant benchmark.
If I loved everything about Android, I wouldn't be criticising the Pixel series or the lackluster performance of Exynos 990.
If iOS was better than Android, I'd say so, but unfortunately it isn't. Get that in your head!!!No amount of ramblings from your side is going to change those facts.
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Mediatek sux, 03 Dec 20203dmarks slingshot test doesnt reflect any real world modern... morehave a concrete and comparable example? Knowing that a huge majority of android games run in higher resolutions and that it is almost never possible to choose the resolution on ios and in general it is lower than fullhd
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Anonymous, 03 Dec 2020that's like nvidia vs amd, or consoles, on paper one c... moreWhat, what should we ‘yall’ be looking at? All your suggesting is more vague anecdotal innuendo, nothing substantive.
I get that synthetic benchmarks are not the be all and end all, I have already said as much. But all you got is ‘hey ignore all that and listen to me’ ravings.
And the what the hell is ‘cappish’, don’t you mean capisce??
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Anonymous, 04 Dec 2020Anandtech always does damage control for Apple
You should... moreLook if you read any bias into Anandtech reviews of Apple products so be it, I have neither the time nor inclination to argue against that level of paranoia.
I see read them as very much impartial and willing to critique Apple products where due, think your problem mainly is that such reviews don’t end with ‘Everything Apple sucks, and you should all buy Androids’ which is what the vast majority of comments sections on this site boil down to.
I do remember Androids fans (I was one myself back then) being all over the removable battery thing, right up until it started happening on Android devices, suddenly that all went away. And that’s not the only example of that kind of behaviour.
It’s happening right now with the removal of the charger, Android oem’s will soon follow suit, and android fans will suddenly go very quiet on the issue.
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Android--Master, 04 Dec 2020Performance advantage grown even bigger?
What performance ... moreWell I can consider their findings or your ramblings, yeah think I’ll go with them. They seem to have a clue about the subject, can’t say the same go you.....
Oh and before you start accusing them of bias, just because they don’t share you point of view, consider that you don’t come across as impartial in any way.
I’ll agree in that synthetic benchmarks never tell the whole story, and performance ultimately depends on a plethora of factors.
But with you it always boils down to just a ‘I hate anything Apple, and love everything android’ argument, which is hardly anything new or original for these comments sections.
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Mediatek sux, 03 Dec 20203dmarks slingshot test doesnt reflect any real world modern... moreAnd here you have a little demonstration on how big is deferent is the power of the Adreno gpu.
https://youtu.be/g1q8WXRaFuw
https://youtu.be/gny4MKLukZI
And here you have, second generation 7nm+ vs second generation 7nm+, android vs the well optimized ios and let see what happens.
https://youtu.be/m09b352W8uw
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Mediatek sux, 03 Dec 20203dmarks slingshot test doesnt reflect any real world modern... moreTell me what game you can run in ios at 60 fps that you can not run in android ? I was having a galaxy S9+,S10+ and now I have a OnePlus 8T. I have been getting for my wife every now iphone year by year since the iphone 7. So I have been able to test all of them and let me tell you something. The overall performance of the iphone is better because how optimized is the software for the hardware but even like that i can play the same game at the same fps for longer periods of time with the Snapdragon. And believe me, i just got the iphone 12 for my wife and I can play the same games at the same fps and even higher ( for more at 90 fps) with a generation old gpu.
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The Kirin 9000 in the Mate 40 has a equal multi core benchmark. Kinda underwhelming. Before, Qualcomm had the edge in the Android world. Now, they're just as good as HiSilicon.
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Mediatek sux, 03 Dec 20203dmarks slingshot test doesnt reflect any real world modern... moreThat's depends. One think is metal and another thing is how powerful is the GPU or CPU. Now the Adreno 640 is almost a terraflop gpu. The problem is not the Adreno 640 is android. Just look at the nintendo switch, a under clocket cpu and gpu, a 5 year old SOC and can handle better games and graphics than any Apple or Qualcomm SOC. One thing is how optimized is the software and another thing is how powerful is the hardware.
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Android Authority, 04 Dec 2020Mi 10T Pro is a 500€ device. IPhone on the other hand costs... moreSd 865 can come in 400 to 2000$ device. That doesnt mean you get 4x the fps. Price to performance is always better on android with all the choices anyway.
Everything else that chong liu tested had no trouble maintaining near 60 on a14, though it was just for 10 minutes, while genshin dropped hard after 2 minutes.
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Mediatek sux, 04 Dec 2020Yes even wildlife test is not reflecting of real life tests... moreMi 10T Pro is a 500€ device. IPhone on the other hand costs twice as much.
Genshin Impact isn't the only game in which the A14 shows its throttling nature.
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Android Authority, 04 Dec 2020What is the use of testing RAW performance through tests li... moreYes even wildlife test is not reflecting of real life tests. But it does a much better job than slingshot.
"Paper benchmarks don't matter, real world usage does" - thats pretty much what i said, by mentioning gaming tests.
A14 throttles, but for the first 8 minutes of genshin, it actually does perform better, compared to mi10t pro. No idea how it performs after that though. The rog phone 3 does really well even after 20 minutes. 888 looks like it will atleast match a14 with that 35% improvement. And will maintain it better cus pretty much every android flagship has better cooling than iphones.
Huawei gpu just has big scores, its worse in efficiency than normal adreno 650. Though its better than the oc adreno in 865+. But then again only the note 20 ultra sucks, rog phone has enough cooling to keep its fps.
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Anonymous, 02 Dec 2020Anandtech in their recent review of the 12 series said this... morePerformance advantage grown even bigger?
What performance advantage?
A14 was beat by ROG 3(SD 865+) in speed tests and matched in performance by Kirin 9000.
Heavy games lag on iPhone 12 series.
IOS still remains handicapped enough to not take advantage of any of that power.
Where is the performance advantage??
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Anonymous, 03 Dec 2020Anandtech is owned by Future.plc and Anand himself hasn’t h... moreAnandtech always does damage control for Apple
You should not really call any review by Anandtech of Apple products as reviews. They are homages paid to their shrine. This is a ritual with them..
Anand's love for Apple was in full display during his review days.
His facts were mostly correct but the choice of facts and their interpretation were questionable.
The most clear example of his bias was when after tons of readers complained that Anandtech totally disregarded the importance of replaceable batteries and support for memory cards in favor of aluminum cases (i.e. form over function) Anand and his buddy Brian Klug published highly questionable editorial titled Post about removable storage, removable batteries and smartphones.
This post was soundly criticized by readers. Soon after Brian Klug joined Apple now followed by Anand. It is clear that the two people who were in charge of reviewing Apple products at Anandtech for a few years suddenly abandoned their blogger careers and joined Apple.
This does remind me of the politicians joining lobbying firms after leaving congress. Nothing illegal. Just does not smell right.
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Mediatek sux, 03 Dec 20203dmarks slingshot test doesnt reflect any real world modern... moreWhat is the use of testing RAW performance through tests like Wildlife?
A14 throttles in heavy games.
Paper benchmarks don't matter, real world usage does.
In addition to it, there is no high refresh rate to take advantage of powerful CPU.
Snapdragon 875 will bury the A14 & Kirin 9000 alive.