First phone with camera under display, the ZTE Axon 20 5G, now available globally

03 December 2020
Pricing is yet to be revealed, though.

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AnonD-909757, 05 Dec 2020No need to hide behind an "anon" (AnonD-955101) n... moreCan you 2 take you love / hate relationship out of the tech sector. Nobody really cares.

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    • AnonD-909757
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    • 10 Dec 2020

    Qimchi, 10 Dec 2020Oh I trust in the reliability in pop-up cameras. Simply bec... moreWell, cases with the camera cut out are generally protective enough because of how much they protrude around it, like this one :
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087RLW1W5

    But you can still find cases, mainly thick ones, that still have a protection in the display side, like those two :
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T2F7Y5M
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089G3S5MM

    And just think if you often use the phone in landscape mode while using the front camera, this isn't a sarcastic question, some might never do it, while other might do it a lot (video calls for example).

    I largely prefer the bezel over notches and holes, but I prefer pop up for their privacy advantages, otherwise the display appearance itself from the bezel doesn't bother me, in fact I'd take a phone with pop up + Xperia 1/5 II bezels over regular bezel or any holes/notches.

    But yeah, that's why diversity is important, everyone's tastes are different.

      AnonD-909757, 10 Dec 2020Except that speed test with the most popular phone having p... moreOh I trust in the reliability in pop-up cameras. Simply because there hasn't been any complaints about them breaking from normal use. Another thing other than difference in instant face unlock are minor inconveniences like the case would have to have a cut out. I use thick cases. cases that protect the front screen. Another minor but one to note is holding the phone in landscape while in bed or playing game might be problem. Might. Other than space in the phone and such I prefer having a small notch or a small top and bottom bezel like the Xperia 1/5 ii. It's personal preferences.

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        • 10 Dec 2020

        Qimchi, 09 Dec 2020I know the existence of these phones but really I prefer it... moreExcept that speed test with the most popular phone having pop up, such as the K20 Pro/Mi 9T Pro, OnePlus 7(t) Pro and K30 Pro/Poco F2 Pro, all prove that a pop up camera do operate so fast that those phone can unlock as fast or even sometime faster than other who have a punch hole or a notch, that is from, camera being retracted, both phone having display off, and pressing the button simultaneously, up to getting to Android.
        Proving the Pop up is not a limiting factor in face recognition.

        This is again one of those completely disproven myths about the pop up, along with "wear" problem, "fragility", "moving parts ... want less/reduce ...", "additional point of failure", "water/water resistance/IP rating", "dust" and those other really typical identical and always brought up things that since the first smartphones with pop up came into the market, were almost never a problem and were proven to be extremely reliable tough piece of tech that can endure a lot of things.

        Also, we talk about like 200ms, c'mon what is it with everyone not being able to wait tenths of seconds nowadays ?

          AnonD-955101, 03 Dec 2020I dont get you fellas. You are using devices with front fac... moreWork on your spelling there "fella". I just forgot that the pixels had to be turned off for the selfie cam to work anyway. That makes it all better for privacy since no one can snoop into your selfie cam while your using it without you knowing it since there would be a visible black box on the selfie camera letting you know. If they don't turn off the pixels and still try to snoop they'll just get blasted by the bright screen.

            Anonymous, 03 Dec 2020the pixels have to be tunred off,for the camera to see .Yeah so? That would be an advantage since anyone trying to look through the selfie camera would just be blasted by the brightness of the screen. The only time you need to use the selfie camera is during face unlock or taking selfies. Unless you record games with the phones selfie cam. Its only the top middle portion of the screen anyway.

              Anonymous, 03 Dec 2020Just buy pop up cam phones.I know the existence of these phones but really I prefer it when I can have instant face unlock without waiting for a camera to pop up.

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                • AnonD-909757
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                • 05 Dec 2020

                Android Authority, 05 Dec 2020What do you think about the new tech inside the foldable la... moreI'd say, the same as about any foldable phone that bend the display :
                It is a bad idea.

                As I said, what I would have done would be to put two displays, and either having them physically held through a hinge or a flexible material, or simply let them move apart when folding the device, and using, either a "buffer area" or a "third display".
                If a cushioning display tech would be feasible with little durability issues, it would be a great thing to put at their edges.
                Otherwise, an area meant to compensate for any gap if for any reasons (from dust to hinge wear or even temperature) the phone didn't unfold properly.
                Another solution would be to simply have a third, but really narrow display that would simply get in between the two main and serve as an anti gap solution but also as a side display when the device is folded.

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                  • 05 Dec 2020

                  AnonD-955101, 05 Dec 2020After all I've seen on twitter, what you do and the co... moreNo need to hide behind an "anon" (AnonD-955101) nickname, Mr Berserker89.
                  Translation :
                  "Oh my god, this person is actually opened about sexuality and isn't afraid to say that he like it, and isn't afraid by the view of naked women, how can he live without making a taboo about sex, quick, lets burn the witch !"

                  I have nothing to prove to you, you won't ever get me ashamed, otherwise I wouldn't use the same nickname or would have simply put those adult models into Twitter's lists if I don't wanted them to be seen, but you can't probably get that.

                  You judge me, but the kind of person you are is the worse, all you wanted by asking me my age was to find an insulting remark to do with it, if I was too young then it would have been an excuse to say you are "superior", if I was older you would have used it as a way to basically say "why are you doing X or Y at your age", and if I was the same age you are you would probably have had used a comparison using the most convenient argument you had.
                  This is who you are, someone who, since the first time you talked to me, was mean, arrogant and disrespectful, but also hurt that I do answer back and don't let you the final word, you try to make people feel bad as a way to feel better, as if it would improve your life, but you are just heading to a pit of despair.
                  You think your depression will get better that way ? C'mon get real, it will only go does further, it isn't by constantly hating other people that you'll yourself get better, you'll just become like that.

                  You often said that I am insulting toward other features than those I like, but if there wasn't people acting like you in the first place, it wouldn't have been the case, I would have only preached pop up, bezels and other solutions without being aggressive, though I won't go back on how it requires a "counter-attack" and "preventive strikes" to actually be effective as you can't gasp this simple concept, but you are clearly part of the problem, I wasn't the one who came to you, you did, and you never went away, don't try to pretend otherwise.

                  *Do you realize you are trying to judge someone's intellect based on his view on sexuality ?
                  I really hope this is an excuse to insult me, because if it isn't, this is pretty sad and worrying.
                  You said you have friends (and that I didn't), then why are you wasting times being mean to me rather than being with them in the first place ?
                  I didn't pretend to have friends in fact if anything I'll without any fear or shame tell you that I am not a social person, and I am fine when not surrounded by too many peoples.

                  *One could actually find who my GF is, it doesn't take to be a genius, I didn't try to hide it for the sake of privacy, by respect for her as it would be quite rude to totally split her from my internet self, despite being someone who firmly believe in privacy.
                  But the real question is, who cares that I have a girlfriend or not ?
                  Except trying to find yet another thing to be mean about, why would you ever use it as an argument ? It isn't as if I claim twice a day that I have a girlfriend, you were the one who brought this up.

                  *Just go watch statistics about pornography, how 20% of the whole internet bandwidth is literally used for that, how over 80% of US male citizen watch it weekly, and come back telling me how it is about puberty.

                  *Can't do better than what ? Shoving proofs at your face that you simply yeet as if it was nothing and still camp on your position ? Sure, it is my fault, close minded people who can't accept reality when faced with proof have so much to do with who I am.

                  *Don't you realize that without complaint, you would live in the worst capitalism nightmare in the first place ?
                  Don't you also realize that I am basically doing a single thing : Fighting for diversity.
                  Yes, it is obvious, because of PRIVACY, which is yet another thing that, when faced with tons of link who contain hard proof, you just ignore as if it was totally nothing and pretend you know better, not than me, but then expect of the matter talking about it.

                  *"You do you" say the guy who literally insulted me for being me, that's a whole new level of disguised hypocrisy right here !
                  I know who I am, but you certainly aren't any better than me.

                  Sure, don't read, get away, don't answer me ever, good riddance ! If only you could REALLY not come back, but you'll probably be talking in my back by answering someone who answered me, or trying to prove me wrong on things I literally showed you proof a bazillions times already, or other things, you, who think are better than me, will do.

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                    • 05 Dec 2020

                    AnonD-909757, 04 Dec 2020If you want to really know things about me or ask me more p... moreAfter all I've seen on twitter, what you do and the community you are part of i can say only one thing :DISGUSTING.
                    Your intelect? Out of the window.
                    I doubt that you even have a girlfriend, by the look of your twitter activity it doesnt like you have one as you say.
                    Acting on the net like some well situated fella, on reality?kid that is waithing still for the puberty to come.
                    No wonder you cant do better.
                    And those complaints and rants about almost everything related software or hardware. Now it is obvious why you dont want selfie camera and what is the main reason why you've removed those selfie cameras on your tablets😂
                    But hey you do you, it is clear what kind of a person you are.
                    Im done, dont bother replying like a skipping tape. im not gonna read it anyways.

                      AnonD-909757, 04 Dec 2020There are phones with much higher pixel density though, hav... moreWhat do you think about the new tech inside the foldable laptop from Lenovo?
                      That screen seems to be more durable compared to the one on a foldable smartphone.

                        Boris Sanchez, 04 Dec 2020Guess who's gonna copy UD camera technology in 2035 an... morelolllll , obviously

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                          • 04 Dec 2020

                          BruhMoment, 04 Dec 2020OnePlus isn't even selling anything where I live, and ... moreSame, I bought my OnePlus 6t on Amazon, no one, including phone seller know about OnePlus in France 🤣

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                            • Fayth
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                            • 04 Dec 2020

                            so you should be able to get one
                            now I'm waiting for the front camera test please

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                              • 04 Dec 2020

                              Guess who's gonna copy UD camera technology in 2035 and name it their "greatest innovation" lol

                                Malaysia will be among the first batch to get this phone? Really cannot wait to try it out for real.

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                                  • 04 Dec 2020

                                  Why not in india

                                    AnonD-909757, 04 Dec 2020There are phones with much higher pixel density though, hav... moreOnePlus isn't even selling anything where I live, and I haven't used the others in months...

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                                      • Muhammad
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                                      • 04 Dec 2020

                                      ZTE has no service center in UAE, i bought 2 ZTE Axon 10 5G but both are useless now one is going into no service and other is shutdown after i started downloading and both phones are overheating after a little use. I sent an email to them but no reply from ZTE....in this way i cannot trust on ZTE now

                                        Modest Mind, 04 Dec 2020Almost 7"? How is this a Smartphone anymore?Then call it a mobile multi media center.
                                        For me this phone, still not big enough... We all have different needs u know or??