vivo and ZEISS partner up to jointly develop imaging tech for smartphones

17 December 2020
The two companies will co-engineer imaging systems for high-end smartphones, starting with the vivo X60 series.

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Nick Tagataka, 17 Dec 2020I guess T* supposedly reduces lens flare/glare/ghosting (th... moreExactly. I mention about the whole lens weakness, including the *T coating.

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    Vivo (Oppo As Well) Image Processing too much artificial, especially skin tones and face beauty. That's the reason I am not buying any Vivo Phones.

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      Anonymous, 17 Dec 2020Coating is to reduce the glare. It does not eliminate com... moreI did mention about 'glare' in my post didnt I? The other weakness are the rest of Zeiss lens itself used in Xperia. Dont tell me about lens hood in actual camera world like I didnt handle any real camera before (actually I have it now). The method & results are way way different.

      The point is you were trying so hard as if Sony 'Zeiss T* coating' got any advantage againts others because its the real deal. In real life usage, it did not. What matter are results.

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        • 17 Dec 2020

        Anonymous, 17 Dec 2020Coating is to reduce the glare. It does not eliminate com... moreyou can buy google from your comment alone

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          • 17 Dec 2020

          YUKI93, 17 Dec 2020Let's see what Vivo can do with the ZEISS lens. A thre... moreNot fair since HMD does not have devices with Focal Length beyond 30mm.
          Just useless macro/depth.

          Those 2 or 5MP sensors are same used by phones when current android was 4.0 or previous.

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            Nick Tagataka, 17 Dec 2020That's actually a bit questionable since it's imp... moreWhen any photo has glare, it is always because ppl do not have the common sense to avoid camera pointed directly to sun or still lower angle of light that directly hits the phone.

            Inside cam module, there is some light reflection. That gets worse when too much light is in.

            If even professional glass lenses can have issues with it, let alone cheap plastic ones used on cellphones.

              Anonymous, 17 Dec 2020Coating is to reduce the glare. It does not eliminate com... moreThat's actually a bit questionable since it's impossible to tell if that's actually translating to the real life performance from results we can find online. While I can see that in some low light scenes Xperia 1 II exhibits less lens flares than its rivals, you can also say Xperia's tendency to render deep, dark shadows are effectively hiding them.

                Let's see what Vivo can do with the ZEISS lens. A three-way smartphone camera fight between Vivo, Sony, and HMD Nokia wouldn't hurt at all.

                  kek, 17 Dec 2020If this means HMD dies, then it's all good for meI actually doubt that would happen at all.

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                    If this means HMD dies, then it's all good for me

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                      Nick Tagataka, 17 Dec 2020In order for Huawei to put Leica branding, their phones mus... moreOnviously. But it leads costumers to think Leica makes them.
                      Not much honest from marketing point of view.
                      Not as bad as using Nikon camera to pretend phone is taking the photo.

                        Shui8, 17 Dec 2020'Sony has the T*' Funny that even Xperia using... moreI guess T* supposedly reduces lens flare/glare/ghosting (though the camera comparison doesn't seem to prove Sony's claim) but doesn't fix poor optical quality of cheap lens that is used on Xperia. After all, there's only so much that a mere lens coating can do to the actual image quality.

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                          Shui8, 17 Dec 2020'Sony has the T*' Funny that even Xperia using... moreCoating is to reduce the glare.
                          It does not eliminate completely.
                          Have you heard about something called "Hood" used on professional lenses?

                          If I could make $1 for each dumb comment I read here, I could buy Amazon, Google and Apple.

                            Anonymous, 17 Dec 2020Sony has the T*. Vivo is gonna have T*. HMD does not. ... moreIn order for Huawei to put Leica branding, their phones must pass Leica's quality inspection including (and probably the most significant one being) the lens quality test. Apart from P20 Pro which was their first generation device with a large sensor, all of their high end P/Mate series had a great quality lens with good corner to corner sharpness. Obviously they won't allow a phone company to use their name when their phones have a crappy optics LMFAO.

                              Does that mean nokia is going to discontinue to using ZEISS optics ?

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                                Anonymous, 17 Dec 2020Sony has the T*. Vivo is gonna have T*. HMD does not. ... more'Sony has the T*'

                                Funny that even Xperia using it, still got corner softness, uneven sharpness all around images, glare reflection just like any other phone. 😂😂😂

                                The so called 'Leica branded chinese lens' on Huawei much more better when it comes to lens quality.

                                I wonder which company exactly only using 'branding name' for the sake of marketing.

                                  AnonD-923722, 17 Dec 2020Even if vivo partner up with Zeiss, it isn't going to ... moreBBK's image processing has gotten a lot better over a last couple of years and now Vivo is going to use a RGBW for higher light sensitivity with a minimal sacrifice of colour accuracy (Huawei needs to take a note). I'm expecting them to make a huge leap in image quality this year.

                                    AnonD-923722, 17 Dec 2020Even if vivo partner up with Zeiss, it isn't going to ... morex50 pro plus had excellent colors its just a shame that the lower end models didn't

                                      More competition!

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                                        • 17 Dec 2020

                                        AnonD-923722, 17 Dec 2020Even if vivo partner up with Zeiss, it isn't going to ... moreBeauty mode is popular in Asia.
                                        Bizarre saturated colours are popular among bias reviews.

                                        Nothing is gonna change ...