Latest vivo X60 teasers hype up camera performance
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- 30 Dec 2020
Anonymous, 22 Dec 2020Higher f value does not necessarily means the diameter of a... more"Higher f value does not necessarily means the diameter of aperture has increased."
Are you re-defining the laws of physics and the terms governing photography? Or are you just breaking bad?
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- 30 Dec 2020
YUKI93, 22 Dec 2020If you remember the Huawei Honor 20 Pro from 2018, that is ... moreAnd yet, all their promo photos were taken with Full Frame DSLRs. lol
Huawei has great cameras, but their capabilities and real numbers are grossly exaggerated.
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- AnonD-909757
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- 23 Dec 2020
Anonymous, 23 Dec 2020Which processor use Vivo x60 and x60 pro?The article says Exynos 1080 for the X60 series.
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- 23 Dec 2020
Which processor use Vivo x60 and x60 pro?
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- 23 Dec 2020
Shui8, 23 Dec 2020I dont know I've shown to u before, but here's mi... moreThose are great macro shots!
Think about how much better it would be to have :
*UW + Wide (continuous zoom).
*Periscope Telephoto with Portrait and Macro mode (continuous zoom and deep focus control).
Only two sensors, no cropping ever.
In fact we can do better and use a single sensor :
http://imgur.com/gallery/tIXYDCW
I have since improved the concept but didn't make a model for it yet.
This doesn't necessarily take less space than 3 or 4 sensors, but it save costs by only requiring a single sensor which can be a total monster.
For battery, just adding a single mm in thickness will have a greater result, Smartphones are too thin nowadays anyway, the ultra slim trend is almost as bad as the 2Mp sensors one.
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- 23 Dec 2020
AnonD-909757, 23 Dec 2020Perhaps, I often write this, so I don't remember with ... moreI dont know I've shown to u before, but here's mine, taken using UWA on Mate 20, at 16mp - https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1C3GixmJhB6aIGHFw7o5tf1yblJdptYgR
Those insects are so tiny, sized as tip of a pencil. And that yellow spider? Sits on my jeans pants. I couldnt even see those with own eyes. Close range at 2.5cm. Yes, Poco F2 macro are beautiful (as I observe, focus area not close as mine), no need to be close to object but at the same time it cannot be used as human portrait shot. Thats what I mean in the first place. Its a separate sensor. Poco F2 portrait 2x zoom use digital crop from main sensor. If I have a choice, I choose portrait telephoto lens over dedicated macro, anyday (at least that is my preference in photography).
With main+telephoto+UWA(macro) combination, can save space for bigger battery and to me its a lot more practical.
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- 23 Dec 2020
Shui8, 23 Dec 2020I think we already discuss about this. Of course true macro... morePerhaps, I often write this, so I don't remember with who.
Well, the Poco F2 Pro would like to disagree, his dedicated Tele-Macro take by far the best macro shots of any Smartphones despite being only 5Mp :
https://m.imgur.com/a/Fi25ixA
https://electrodealpro.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/h12_800x597.jpg
https://electrodealpro.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/h13_800x598.jpg
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- 23 Dec 2020
AnonD-909757, 22 Dec 2020Actually, the UW doesn't take better macro shots, it o... moreI think we already discuss about this. Of course true macro mode on actual camera using a telephoto lens (80mm).
But as of now, there are none yet for smartphone, therefore implementation using UWA are better.
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- 22 Dec 2020
Shui8, 22 Dec 2020UWA with AF takes better macro than additional 2mp dedicate... moreActually, the UW doesn't take better macro shots, it only take better resolution/quality ones because of the resolution difference.
Except fisheye, there is nothing less appropriate for macro shots than an Ultra-Wide.
I totally agree that 2Mp sensors are totally useless because of their low resolution, but a 12Mp dedicated Macro would blow any UW out of the water, for several reasons :
*A Macro lens is almost a Telephoto, while you don't want too much focal length, you still want quite a bit of it.
Meanwhile an Ultra-Wide is about short focal length, though like the Macro, you don't want too little of it.
*having more magnification allow to either take even closer look to the subject, or to take your macro shot from further than with a shorter focal length.
*The shorter the focal length, the closer you'll need to be to take the same macro shot.
*The depth of field is quite important too, a deep one is useful for taking thing far away, but for close range it is quite a negative thing as the minimum focus distance isn't necessarily usable, and the deeper your depth of field, the more distance you'll have before being really in focus.
Mix all that with the facts that :
*Ultra-Wide have a really deep depth of field.
*Smartphone's Ultra-Wide have a further minimum focus distance than any Smartphone's macro.
And it is a no brainers that what we need is a Telephoto with continuous variables magnification (zoom) with a deep focus control (capable of getting shallow depth of field that by itself already give true Portrait, and close minimum focus distance, both together gives a real Macro).
But sub 12Mp Telephoto in 2020 should be considered a crime against humanity!
Also the depth sensors have tons of uses that aren't possible yet because they have a too low depth map resolution, but it have nothing to do with the telephoto.
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- 22 Dec 2020
aquinoe, 22 Dec 2020I have just imported a vivo x50 pro+ through aliexpress. It... moreHuawei uses Sony sensor which is currently Sony's best while Somy itself uses the standard 12MP sensor
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- 22 Dec 2020
I hope that the X60 worldwide, will be full 4G bands this time.. Because the price of the french X51 full 4G bands but 800€ ...( X50 pro 500€) was really too high in France . Vivo France didn't understand the french market ...They've imported this X51/X50 pro model very lately and 300€ more expensive...
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- 22 Dec 2020
i0S Never Again, 22 Dec 2020Will this have GN1 or GN2 sensor? remain GN1
Mi11 Pro will use GN2
- Andreidinutu
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- 22 Dec 2020
Shui8, 22 Dec 2020UWA with AF takes better macro than additional 2mp dedicate... moreAlright
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- Anonymous
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- 22 Dec 2020
TheLastOracle, 22 Dec 2020I am.sure the camera will ne decent, though not great.
B... moreHigher f value does not necessarily means the diameter of aperture has increased.
Tons of things involved.
Not always better.
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- 22 Dec 2020
Andreidinutu, 22 Dec 2020Whats the issue if you have some extra sensors? I really do... moreUWA with AF takes better macro than additional 2mp dedicated sensor. If already has a telephoto sensor, no need any depth sensor, unless its a ToF or LiDAR (greatly helps AF in low lights).
Like I said, main+tele+UWA are way way better than main+UWA+2mp+2mp.
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- 22 Dec 2020
Shui8, 22 Dec 2020Oh yesss no more 2mp macro/depth sensor....hopefully 2021 t... moreWhats the issue if you have some extra sensors? I really dont get it yet
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- 22 Dec 2020
TheLastOracle, 22 Dec 2020I am.sure the camera will ne decent, though not great. B... moreIf you remember the Huawei Honor 20 Pro from 2018, that is the first ever smartphone to have f/1.4 aperture.