Apple places 3nm chip order with TSMC

23 December 2020
Mass production starts in 2022.

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  • 24 Dec 2020

Anonymous, 24 Dec 2020Foolish people think Apple is small fry, got denial when Ap... moreAnd apple successfully angered windows users or (hardcore specs geeks) like how they did to android users.

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    • 24 Dec 2020

    Anonymous, 24 Dec 2020Foolish people think Apple is small fry, got denial when Ap... moreSo true I wish people can be less ignorant someday.
    Every brand (almost) copies Apple, countless of cloned Airpods from big brands like OnePlus, Xiaomi, super copycat Huawei.
    Generally one thing or another such as the look of a smartphone is stolen from Apple, it's original iPhone.
    They can sell the device, since everyone knows that it is and what it does after Apple has them, they don't even have be spend much on R&D.
    First real smartphone with real touch screen ( I would personally ignore other phones that you claim to be one, like those with black and white screen and small touch screen and with no camera on it )
    That's all you need to know

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      • 24 Dec 2020

      Recently Apple has proved the ability to dominate the market with most valuable devices, like MacBook Air, iPhone 11, iPhone 12, iPad Air. It's like they are on the new level of value, even with the brand on it. ;)

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        • 24 Dec 2020

        TheLastOracle, 24 Dec 2020"Apple places 3nm chip order with TSMC" This i... moreNot sure what you're trying to say. Could you rephrase that?

          Anonymous, 24 Dec 2020Foolish people think Apple is small fry, got denial when Ap... morewith this comment, you just demonstrated to us the definition of a Cult.

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            • 24 Dec 2020

            Foolish people think Apple is small fry, got denial when Apple sell millions of smartphones, thinking it's all zombies and magic.

            Nokia, Microsoft, Tesla.. all make fun of this company. All hope for the death of Apple, but nevertheless, it keep improving.

            Haters keep hating. Calling this 3nm a flop. Just like they call iPhone 5 a tall remote control, or iPad the huge iPhone, or the AirPods toothbrushes, or the death of 3.5 jack. But what happens? Their own favourites brand also follow Apple like a slave.. cloning the exact things, so what to do? Haters have to eat their own words, and praise their fav brands.. saying "oh so cheap compared to Apple." Yeah.. ALWAYs compared to Apple.

            A good SoC not only improve performance, it also improve battery consumption. Thats the strength of Apple's Silicon. They control the OS, they control the hardware, see their MacBooks.. once they ditch intel, they double their performance while reducing battery consumption.

              Apple also placed an order for 0nm in 2025. I heard this in a pub.

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                • 24 Dec 2020

                YUKI93, 24 Dec 2020So if there is 1nm chip in the future, what would come afte... more500pm chips Will probably follow ( picometer ).

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                  • 24 Dec 2020

                  Anonymous, 23 Dec 2020and in 2021 Samsung is still selling overpriced old 9611 ba... moreReplace Samsung with Intel and this message would still be true

                    "Apple places 3nm chip order with TSMC"

                    This is not technically correct. Apple has signed a right to first refusal foe the 3nm node process. Which solely means it probably will have the guest right, over production, when the 3nm node chips can be both tested and produced.

                    That should be in 2022-23. Not now. And probably not next year either.

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                      • 24 Dec 2020

                      Note 20 Ultra, 24 Dec 2020I am not interested in overpriced mobiles or tablets from A... moreThey are not useless, just overpriced. Lol.

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                        • 24 Dec 2020

                        TheAccountant, 23 Dec 2020i am more excited for graphene batteries than 15-20% faster SoCs Nope you are wrong Pure Graphene batteries are the technology of the future.

                        Let me put the Battery map till 2100

                        This is how things are going.

                        Solid State Lithium Metal (2028-2030)

                        Solid State Lithium Sulphur (2030-2035)

                        Solid State Lithium Air (2035+)

                        Soils State Sodium Battery (Some time 2030s)

                        Solid State Graphene Anode Battery (2040s)

                        Pure Solid State Battery (Probably mid Century)

                        Pure Graphene Batteries bare available but cintain high amount of impurities which make it unusable and mostly useless

                        Carbon Nano Tube Battery (Predicted Before 2100)

                          So if there is 1nm chip in the future, what would come after that?

                            No 3nm tech for smartphone CPUs??

                              Anonymous, 24 Dec 2020Intel still can't get their process below 10nm. Gives ... moreIntel could make 5nm of it is not CICS for sure. It is mean for sustained performance for real professionals. No enterprise bulk orders MacBooks for their employees like they do with Windows....Apple may be great for certain select audiance in the professional circles like video editors, but MS-Intel caters to much wider audience successfully across the globe for decades and at far far higher volumes in the last 20 plus years or even more(nearly 90% market share). Not ready to switch or dump their miniscule customer base like Apple. They don't have that luxury but having said that, they were still lazy enough.... Glad AMD is over taking them in the PC World.

                                I am not interested in overpriced mobiles or tablets from Apple anymore. They can make great SoC for sure but their fear of the stuff so behind the competition and asking for too much just for the processor alone but making clever tricks like ecosystem bs. They can do all they can with their 3nm, 1nm, 0.5nm SoC, and keep their stockholders happy with their gadgets. I world rather buy Apple stock for $1000 than any of their useless gadgets...

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                                  • 24 Dec 2020

                                  palkos88, 23 Dec 2020So Apple is doing something what Intel didnt.. While Intel ... moreIntel still can't get their process below 10nm. Gives me great respect for TSMC and Samsung who are producing 5nm chips.

                                    IpsDisplay, 23 Dec 2020Only on paper some battery hungry technology always offsets... moreStill, that's something that you will definitely appreciate, as you get more functionalities while consuming just as much power from the battery as before.
                                    Besides, most of those extra features can be disabled when not unnecessary anyways, so users can still enjoy the efficiency gains of the newer fabrication process while doing the same daily routine on their mobile phones.

                                    As for the development of new batteries, not only is it very costly, but it also takes a lot of time and patience. Even if one already exists now, it definitely won't be used on any smartphone as early as today, as it would still be in beta phase, and would need extensive testing on its quality and reliability when used by a casual phone user. Aside from that, this is also a newly developed technology, in which the companies involved in the development have invested so much for it to happen, so most likely the price of those things would be sky rocket high, just like how foldable phones are today. I certainly wouldn't buy something new that's still in its early days of existence in this world, and we'll have to wait for about 5 years at least before switching to something new.

                                      So Apple is doing something what Intel didnt.. While Intel was ahead, they increased performance for ~10% every year. Come on, they were very very lucky that it lasted for such a long time (years).

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                                        • 23 Dec 2020

                                        Anonymous, 23 Dec 2020and in 2021 Samsung is still selling overpriced old 9611 ba... moreOptimalized 14nm > 12nm Mediatek P22 which used TSMC foundry Samsung don't have any 12nm Chipset .
                                        Optimalized 10nm > 8nm Samsung Exynos 980 that smoked SD 765G
                                        Samsung 3nm GAAFET will blown out 3nm EUV TSMC by yields and Power Efficiency .