Vivo X60 and X60 Pro announced with 5nm Exynos 1080 chipsets
- M
- Mikele
- fsV
- 29 Dec 2020
Anonymous, 29 Dec 2020Point is ...
If you do not care about updates, this dev... moreYes you're right!!
Their products are absolute great in spec wise but software update is the biggest flaws and Vivo seems not bother
- I
- IpsDisplay
- kiM
- 29 Dec 2020
Can someone advise me of the difference of e4 and e3 AMOLED?
Where are the exynos 1080 comparisons seeing that it is new did vivo do any official benchmarks? If so where are the results????
- ?
- Anonymous
- JT5
- 29 Dec 2020
AnonD-923722, 29 Dec 2020We are talking software image processing here, not softwar... morePoint is ...
If you do not care about updates, this device can satisfy your needs.
If updates are extremely important to you, you will be disappointed by having vivo.
Just this ...
Check samples of X50+ review.
Exactly same of OP8P and X2 Pro.
What is good and what is bad.
Better colours, but same wax effect.
I have noticed this wax effect has been common to phones that output 12MP (mostly from ones with quadbayer). I have a midrange motorola here (not mine) , it does same for jpeg files.
- YUKI93
- KZK
- 29 Dec 2020
fruitcake, 29 Dec 2020I bet Samsung is making these phones and just putting the V... moreVivo has been using the Exynos chipset on the X series since the X30 ad X30 Pro from last year. Remember that the X30 Pro started the trend for dual telephoto sensor with two different focal length.
- YUKI93
- KZK
- 29 Dec 2020
It looks like the X60 Pro is not much different than the X50 Pro except for the new Exynos 1080 chipset and also the ZEISS lens. I should be seeing improved photo quality for the new phone.
- f
- fruitcake
- 3xx
- 29 Dec 2020
I bet Samsung is making these phones and just putting the Vivo name on it,using there Exynos chips,so Samsung knows to make there phones to offer better functions
- D
- AnonD-923722
- tDP
- 29 Dec 2020
Anonymous, 29 Dec 2020If software support is important to you, vivo is last brand... moreWe are talking software image processing here, not software. I love all software from all brands. Before android 10,they were all trash. But now funtouch os, coloros, realme ui, miui, emui are great, i don't have problems with those. I just don't like vivo's image processing, too much noise reduction destroys detail, oversaturated colours, hdr were inconsistent, but their hardware is top notch
- M
- MiYaGiN
- pHP
- 29 Dec 2020
There are more differences:
2.5D curved glass vs 3D Glass on Pro
Different network bands
Pro is a little smaller
X60 main camera aperture is f/1.79
- D
- AnonD-909757
- pZV
- 29 Dec 2020
Close focus does NOT mean Macro, there is a whole word of Macro we can't do with an Ultra-Wide.
I don't pretend to be a photography expert, but c'mon this ain't hard to understand...
The shorter the focal length (the wider the Angle) the closer you need to be to make a Macro shot, take a fisheye lens, it is a no brainers that you need the lens touching to get a real Macro shot.
2,5cm is already normal with a 50mm/60mm Macro lens, which is considered extra low focal length for Macro, now with the sub 20mm of an Ultra-Wide we have on smartphones, it is already heavily limiting.
But then you take depth of field (distance between closest and furthest objects in focus) into consideration, and things goes completely downhill...
Not only 2.5 cm isn't the point at which the camera focus, but the closest focus point, but it isn't really usable at this distance.
It take extra distance to get into a good focus point.
The advantages is that a deeper depth of field is available compared to a dedicated Macro, the issue is that the deeper it is and the further we have a really usable focus.
And Ultra-Wide have a really deep depth of field, it wouldn't make sense otherwise and they have a really small f number (wide aperture).
This is why dedicated Macro usually have a high focal length and a small aperture, they are known for their shallow depth of their.
Telephoto are the best substitute for Macro, using the Ultra-Wide is just lazy letting the autofocus doing all the heavy lifting.
Heck, one of the photographers trick is to put an Ultra-Wide backwards to use it as a Macro, that's how different they are.
If a Fisheye is the opposite of a Telephoto, then the Ultra-Wide is the opposite of the Macro.
https://youtu.be/m56ANbj9YpE
- ?
- Anonymous
- JT5
- 29 Dec 2020
AnonD-923722, 29 Dec 2020Very good pricing. I wonder how the Exynos 1080 will perfor... moreIf software support is important to you, vivo is last brand you should consider.
Way worse than LG, Asus or even Oppo when it comes to security patches or new android.
X20+ UD (first with in screen FPS) did not get any new android.
- S
- Shady69
- rpN
- 29 Dec 2020
stop looking at these prices if you don't live in china, the global version are gonna a lot pricier.
- D
- AnonD-923722
- tDP
- 29 Dec 2020
TEtech, 29 Dec 2020Vivo's image processing was incredible on the x50 Pro+... moreThe hdr and colours were great, but not that consistent. And the detail is loss because of noise reduction
- TEtech
- 3rM
- 29 Dec 2020
SpectreYT01, 29 Dec 2020Check some videos uploaded by chinese media.. It score aro... moreI can believe it, it's a 5nm processor after all
- TEtech
- 3rM
- 29 Dec 2020
AnonD-923722, 29 Dec 2020Very good pricing. I wonder how the Exynos 1080 will perfor... moreVivo's image processing was incredible on the x50 Pro+, had great colors and dynamic range, so if its similar you wouldn't need gcam.
- ?
- Anonymous
- 7WZ
- 29 Dec 2020
Can't wait to see Exynos 1080's benchmarks
- S
- SpectreYT01
- U@f
- 29 Dec 2020
Spanky, 29 Dec 2020It’s not going to be over 600K. Many Snapdragon 865 phones ... moreCheck some videos uploaded by chinese media..
It score around 610k on Antutu.
- ?
- Anonymous
- u1I
- 29 Dec 2020
Spanky, 29 Dec 2020It’s not going to be over 600K. Many Snapdragon 865 phones ... moreExynos 1080 is faster than SD865 in geekbench. Antutu should give pretty similar results
- S
- Spanky
- nD@
- 29 Dec 2020
AnonD-923722, 29 Dec 2020Very good pricing. I wonder how the Exynos 1080 will perfor... moreIt’s not going to be over 600K. Many Snapdragon 865 phones don’t reach that score and we’re talking about a one year old flagship SoC!
It’ll probably be ~450K, in my opinion, with the Snapdragon 775 ~100K higher.
- D
- AnonD-923722
- tDP
- 29 Dec 2020
Very good pricing. I wonder how the Exynos 1080 will perform. If it has an antutu of 600.000+, then i will consider this an threat to the Mi 11. X50 Pro main camera and ultrawide has small sensor, which is underwhelming. I don't understand why only Huawei can have such an large ultra wide lens sensor, while others are stuck at an smaller sensor. I wonder if the Exynos 1080 has the power to run 1080p at 120hz smoothly? If not, the 120hz will be useless. Not 1440p, but fine, i am fine with 1080p. No wireless charging is fine, as well as ip rating. Hope the global price is the same as MI 11 or even cheaper.
If it does, i would consider buying :
1. Mi 11 12 256 GB
2. Vivo X60 Pro 12 256 GB
3. Upcoming realme phone
I am looking for an impressive phone for under $700.
The only downsides of exynos is : cannot install GCAM. I don't trust Vivo's image processing, i trust Google's and Huawei's image processing the most. Hope someone can find a way to install gcam on the x60 Pro. And i hope the gimbal camera isn't just for show. As well as the periscope lens, since the X50 Pro ones are bad