Samsung to introduce a plethora of ISOCELL sensors, 200MP included

09 January 2021
2021 is going to be a big year for Samsung's cameras.

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Evis, 02 Aug 2021thats not going to happen in the near future... like 100 ye... moreIt happened now lol

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    • 02 Aug 2021

    AnonD-731363, 16 Jan 2021Maybe but maybe after many many years and technology improv... morethats not going to happen in the near future... like 100 years future

      LOWLIGHTBEAST, 12 Jul 2021In the history of smartphones cameras, which phones have th... morethe RYYB imx700 huawei/leica custom sensor is the best so i guess the huawei p40 pro but this is kind of stupid question since you will always use software. With software the pixel 5 captures the best low light pictures, until the end of july at least when huawei will launch the p50 pro.

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        • 12 Jul 2021

        3VA, 10 Jan 2021Imagine a 1” sensor with just 12mp.. it’ll be a lowlight beastIn the history of smartphones cameras, which phones have the best native low light capturing ability without software stacking and multi-frame noise reduction trickery?

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          • 16 Jan 2021

          HovadoLesni, 15 Jan 2021yes but its all down to the optics, hubble's mirror is... moreMaybe but maybe after many many years and technology improvement we will create something far better than hubble telescope and same will be for a cellphone cameras.
          Or we make a one all round device which will replace everything.
          Like phones replaced walkmans, radios, audio recorders, navigations, cameras, camcoders etc.

            AnonD-731363, 11 Jan 2021Bzut is a gazillions times better than any phone or camera ... moreyes but its all down to the optics, hubble's mirror is 2.5m and polished down to the precision that is you would increase the size to the size of the planet, the biggest bump would be 15cm.
            We will never have that in mobile.
            Mobile will be always inferior to dlsr or mirrorless cameras

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              • 11 Jan 2021

              HovadoLesni, 11 Jan 2021well Hubble's CCD is only 16MP, its the optics that ma... moreBzut is a gazillions times better than any phone or camera can do and we can buy nowdays. I am i right???
              Even the Mark III by Cannon the best camera humans can buy for money if we exclude projects like hubble telescope is not even close to what Hubble Telescope can do and preform.

                AnonD-731363, 10 Jan 2021As long as the camera on a phone doesnt surpass Hubble Tele... morewell Hubble's CCD is only 16MP, its the optics that make the difference

                  Anonymous, 10 Jan 2021Having ability to record 4K@120 has nothing to do with read... more"Having ability to record 4K@120 has nothing to do with readout speed. It is about enough power"
                  It's actually about both of them on top of whether a manufacturer has an intention to provide the feature to the end consumer in the first place. SD865 inside S20 and V60 can handle 4K120fps recording, so can their sensors, yet neither of them actually have the feature implemented in the camera app because Samsung and LG deemed it to be unnecessary.

                  As for the DPReview part: I'm sure you're talking about this specific image.
                  https://www.dpreview.com/files/p/articles/8550800535/sony_sensor2.jpeg
                  Sony's explanation on the readout speed was quite misleading here and DPReview also misinterpreted what was written on the slide - the comparison was clearly made between IMX557 and Samsung's slowest ISOCELL HM1 (you can see that from the fact it lists out the sensor readout time for both 12MP and 108MP mode) that also happened to be twice as large. As you already know, the larger the sensor size, the longer it takes to scan the entire area. Let's see how well it would stack up against similarly sized 1/1.72 inch ISOCELL GW1, although Sony wouldn't want to make that comparison for obvious reasons.

                    Anonymous, 09 Jan 2021Toshiba no longer makes cameras sensors. Business was sol... moreTrue... My bad! But they did make amazing sensors back then!

                      Anonymous, 09 Jan 2021Note 20 ultra has one of the best cameras on the market. En... moreEnough said? lol You don't know much about photography, don't you?

                        Mobilemaster, 09 Jan 2021Samsung sensors are almost as good as Sony sensors, come on... moreThat's what I said... Inferior is almost. You may not notice the night and day difference, but it is there visible. Plus Camera quality is one thing. Sony sensors are power efficient, compatible efficiently with the chips, and are good with the price to performance ratio. There is a reason OEM's are buying it

                          The point towards zooming using sensors is way too tough.

                          To make a sensor zoom 2x on same resolution, you need to increase its resolution to 4x.
                          To get 2x zoom of the current 108MP, you need 432MP...
                          Its just getting crazy out there.

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                            • 11 Jan 2021

                            this is BS....200MP sensor!? What are we living in the dark ages?
                            Waiting for the 4TP sensor so that I can take better selfies and snaps of my food and cats

                              Nick Tagataka, 10 Jan 2021"This is usually never the case with smartphone lenses... moreThese Sony guys just keep repeating the marketing lingo of the company.
                              Pretty sure these guys are hired tr^lls.

                              They are repeating same info about Read out speed that company talked about (yet very few benefits in real world and overall image quality in Auto mode is poor compared to other big sensors)

                              They said the same about the fake 90hz implementation on Xperia 1 II which again pales in comparison to real 90hz or 120hz screens.

                              They repeated company marketing points about manual mode.
                              Although it's good, but phones like Pixel are performing as good in Auto mode without all that manual tinkering.

                              Same way they have made up their minds about Samsung isocell sensors being poor despite the fact that Samsung used Sony and Samsung variants of the sensor in their flagships and very few people noticed a difference in quality.


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                                • 10 Jan 2021

                                Anonymous, 10 Jan 2021Yes. But still inferior to Sony counterparts Based on your personal bias only.

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                                  • 10 Jan 2021

                                  As long as the camera on a phone doesnt surpass Hubble Telescope i am not interested at all.

                                    SteveFOX, 10 Jan 2021Samsung's sensors have faster shutter speeds and gener... moreSamsung has faster shutter speeds than Sony??

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                                      • 10 Jan 2021

                                      Barricade, 10 Jan 2021High MP sensors are pretty much guaranteed to be Quad Bayer... moreIt doesn't work out directly that way in reality

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                                        • 10 Jan 2021

                                        Now if we could get 20-40mp at 1 inch.
                                        Maybe even 12 as those would be massive pixels. Though id like 40.
                                        Just upgrade the Nokia 808 sensor so we get 40mp at 2um with ois, faster focus, better lens, and retain their natural processing.