Apple is facing two new lawsuits over throttling iPhones in Italy and Portugal

26 January 2021
The suits follow those filed in Belgium and Spain last year and seek €60 per buyer of an iPhone 6 or 6s (including the Plus versions). 

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  • 27 Jan 2021

AnonD-804996, 26 Jan 2021People keep saying "buuuuht you keep supporting such d... morenever mind, i still got OnePlus without any problem

    AnonD-804996, 26 Jan 2021People keep saying "buuuuht you keep supporting such d... moreSometimes it's good to re-read a comment before posting. This is the definition of trolling!

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      • AnonD-923722
      • tDQ
      • 27 Jan 2021

      Anonymous, 27 Jan 2021apple is the most unethical and greedy corps out there nowa... moreSome may think so. But for the last 3 years, apple phone prices haven't shot up so drastically. Unlike some android phones (excluding foldables),

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        • Anonymous
        • TLP
        • 27 Jan 2021

        [deleted post]apple is the most unethical and greedy corps out there nowadays
        innovated in the past but now that tech has reached a kind of plateau theyve lost their charm

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          • lemondez
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          • 27 Jan 2021

          Bring back symbian and nokia. People complain about apple throttling, but they are ok with samsung and sony not providing software updates after 2 years. In my mind, apple is a lesser of the two evils and honestly you can still live off a iphone 6 or 6s with no issues. Imaging living with a Samsung S6 or S7 :O

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            • AnonD-923722
            • tDQ
            • 27 Jan 2021

            Don't spread negatives man. It is done to keep the battery great on older Iphones, if not, battery will be totalky sucks.

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              • AnonD-909757
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              • 27 Jan 2021

              AnonD-804996, 26 Jan 2021People keep saying "buuuuht you keep supporting such d... moreYes, there are way too much people trying to justify the removal of the 3.5mm Jack by saying that THEY, themselves, prefer wireless, or that the Jack is an old tech, etc.
              This is not the root of the problem, but it clearly not helped to make such kind of bad design stop.
              What the market need is super simple :
              Diversity.

              1) If a feature isn't invasive (meaning the user can just perfectly ignore it) like the 3.5mm Jack, the IR Port or the independent SD Slot, NFC, Wireless charging, then it should be a base option that most phones have except if there is a justification (phone being too thin, too cheap, being portless etc), which is more an exception than anything else.

              2) If a feature is invasive, like curved edge display, punch hole, huge (thick) camera hump, that the user can't just ignore, not use or disable, then it should be in the pool of different designs.

              3) Rather than making 10 bazillions identical phones, most should have a common body and system hardware which will be build into multiple variants, so you'll have one with curved edge display, another with 2.5D, another with flat display, depending on how modular the body is, a version could even have a wrap around or at least a 4 curved edge display, while into the mix, some will have a punch hole, other a bezel, other a teardrop notch, other a pill/dual punch hole, other a wide notch, other a pop up/flip up camera, other without front camera, etc.
              At the end, each will be basically the same main model, meaning the updates will be common to all with only their respective differences to consider, rather than making completely independent updates.

              4) Each common body could have multiple sizes while keeping the same hardware, the same as the iPhone 12 Mini is still the same as the regular iPhone 12 except for the size.
              On top of that, multiple hardware configurations could be possible, so one with a Snapdragon based, another with a Mediatek, another with an Exynos, etc.

              5) Some features could be more unique, regardless of the price range, so you could have a low end or middle end phone with a flagship level of camera setup, or alternatively like the Pocophone F1, a flagship system with a really simple camera setup, or even a Flagship special edition with an even better camera setup that cost a lot but is only for those who need it.

              6) Rather than making less different phones with X or Y feature, simply produce less of them to answer to supply and demand, that way even niche products doesn't require big deviation from the main production line, allowing to make a lot of sub variants that all come out of the same production line that only have branching to allow that, and allow to basically make what is almost a single update for all of them.
              I mean that's literally what Object-Oriented Programming is for, the ability to easily handle the same core and put many sub variants on it.

              That's how Android should have been and should have stayed, making diversity to allow everyone to have a decent chance at finding his ideal device.

              Some might want a phone with a bezel, curved edge display and a really simple camera setup with only an acceptable main camera with a mid-range SoC while the guy next to him might want a phone with underdisplay camera, flat display, high-end SoC and a great camera setup with Wide, Ultra-Wide and Telephoto.

              Apple is different, the philosophy of Apple was always to make thing simple and to don't let the users a choice to force them into a really simple model to avoid the complexity a customizable OS would cause, so not having diversity from the different phones they have is actually understandable, but not for Android.

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                • 27 Jan 2021

                iAmNo0ne, 26 Jan 2021I suspect that there will be a magnetic port on the phone i... moreThey'll likely just use magsafe

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                  • 26 Jan 2021

                  AnonD-909757, 26 Jan 2021That's probably the same people that also fully suppor... morePeople keep saying "buuuuht you keep supporting such designs". Do we? Between iPhone without headphone jack or having to deal with shitty Android ecosystem with stupid updating schemes, what choice do you really have? Do you think iPhone users would just jump to Android the moment Apple dropped headphone jack? And when Android started adopting it too, then what? You've switched OS and ended up with same situation in the end coz everyone copies Apple.

                  Seeing this trend, I fear Apple will really drop cable in favor of wireless entirely. I do use Qi charger when I'm not in a hurry. But when I need faster charge, I use cable. If phone will be forced to use wireless charging only. But then I'm again asking, am I willing to accept that tradeoff to keep on using for me personally superior OS? I honestly don't know. I really don't like Android and its crappy updating shenanigans, but losing ability to charge almost anywhere is also pretty bad. I guess I'll have to decide when I get there. I plan on sticking with iPhone XR for 2-3more years. What I fear the most is that most Android vendors will copy this Apple's design and we'll end up with no option, really...

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                    • pZV
                    • 26 Jan 2021

                    Anonymous, 26 Jan 2021And yet Apple brand boys on this site were justifying how b... moreThat's probably the same people that also fully support removal of the 3.5mm Jack despite it would cause absolutely nothing negative to them if the phone kept it.
                    I am also sure it is the same kind of people who can't handle the idea that any phone exist without being exactly what they like, you want anything else from the :
                    *Punch hole/teardrop notch.
                    *50% chances of curved display in High End.
                    *Ugly camera bump with the same arrangement on most phones.
                    *2Mp Macro and ToF sensors.
                    *No IR, No Jack, No Stereo speakers, no independent SD Card slot.
                    Etc etc...
                    You face a lot of guys who literally get totally mad at you for wanting ONE phone that isn't the same, as if they would be unable to find a device if a single phone outside their 95% identical ones would dare to innovate or to take its own path...

                    And this is sad, but this behavior is one of the reason things are like that, if it wasn't for those anti 3.5mm Jack, its removal would have been stopped, and if it wasn't for people being for some weird reasons against privacy, a way better user experience would be available.
                    The same is true for Batterygate and removal of inbox charger.
                    Without people approval, most of those things wouldn't even be a consideration, because when people REALLY want, governments and the biggest companies both can't do much.

                      Anonymous, 26 Jan 2021This will be the charging port. Their "future is wirel... moreI suspect that there will be a magnetic port on the phone instead of lightning port that can be used for charging or data transfer if need be.

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                        • Anonymous
                        • 83n
                        • 26 Jan 2021

                        wbpwns, 26 Jan 2021Expect the fruit company to remove something again from the... moreThis will be the charging port. Their "future is wireless" would take this step. Then you can only charge your phone wirelessly and can't have it connected to a computer to diagnose it.

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                          • 26 Jan 2021

                          Anonymous, 26 Jan 2021This is the policy that Xiaomi has adopted too fark. I will... moreNot everyone knows how to unlock the boatload like you and Xiaomi never throttling all their phones until today.

                          Don't give misleading false information.

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                            • Anonymous
                            • pN4
                            • 26 Jan 2021

                            [deleted post]7 year old iPad's Wifi stopped working from one hour to another. It was at the same place, inside the house, not exposed to any harm. Surprisingly I can connect to my phone as a hotspot but can't do Wifi.

                            I reset the tablet, removed it from the network manually and still doesn't work suddenly. They send out silent updates to break old tech. It's insanity if you think they don't. The iPad 3 was first crippled by iOS 9, it's last update (coincidence?) and now this.

                            If you want to trade it in, you were getting €30 in 2019 for a working or undamaged one. Now they made it useless without Wifi and offer you €0. Yes, literally €0. All the material in it is worth more than that.

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                              • AnonymousZedaBranca
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                              • 26 Jan 2021

                              Apple doesn't care, apple billing volume is more than GDP of Portugal.

                                That money won't go to individuals who bought the phone. It will be money for the government.

                                  [deleted post]GSMA iphone battery tests are done on brand new iphone before the apple starts roting. Your argument is baseless. Each update from apple is actually a downgrade. Sad that some Android OEMs like Xiaomi are doing this too.

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                                    • Anonymous
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                                    • 26 Jan 2021

                                    This is the policy that Xiaomi has adopted too fark. I will Never buy a phone which I cannot unlock the bootloader to install a custom ROM. Or makes you wait for their approval to unlock bootloader. You give them money lots of money when you buy the phone but OEMs still want to co-own the phone with you s#it.

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                                      • 26 Jan 2021

                                      Anonymous, 26 Jan 2021This is why less than 15% users in the world trust their mo... moreyes but android is ad monetization scumbag :D
                                      (btw im all for android)

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                                        • AnonD-973296
                                        • GYi
                                        • 26 Jan 2021

                                        srsly? u r suing them for THAT? what do they do in their free time, good god they r nuts