Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra to pioneer the 50MP Samsung GN2 sensor

23 February 2021
Yet another Xiaomi smartphone will debut a Samsung sensor.

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  • Nedali

Android-Authority, 10 Mar 2021Congratulations on studying physics. But do you have actual... moreTnx

Anonymous, 06 Mar 2021"theoretical garbage" What a smart statement, wh... moreCongratulations on studying physics. But do you have actual experience working in image processing department of a smartphone company? Do you have any experience as to what kind of algorithms are at play, how they can extract best image quality out of a big sensor? If NOT, then S-T-F-U.

  • Anonymous

Android-Authority, 28 Feb 2021Keep your therotical garbage to yourself. Smartphone compa... more"theoretical garbage"
What a smart statement, which also violates the posting rules. I studied physics, so I guess that to a degree I am able to judge which user utters "theoretical garbage".

Anonymous, 27 Feb 2021That's wrong. A large sensor is not magic. It won'... moreKeep your therotical garbage to yourself.
Smartphone companies have developers on board, who know exactly how to extract the best image quality out of a large sensor. Those guys are way smarter than you and aren't getting triggered by generalized statements.

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 27 Feb 2021That's wrong. A large sensor is not magic. It won'... more"So you can simulate a sensor that is twice as large, if you simply take a photo with 1/30s Iso 100 instead of 1/60s Iso 200 (at the same f number). "

More accurate:
"So you can simulate a camera that has a sensor that is twice as large and has a lens that produces the same field of view and has the same f-number (this automatically means that the effective area of the aperture is twice as large, too), if you simply take a photo with 1/30s Iso 100 instead of 1/60s Iso 200 (at the same f number). "

  • Anonymous

Android-Authority, 25 Feb 2021The sensor itself is so huge that dynamic range, noise, etc... moreThat's wrong. A large sensor is not magic. It won't magically lead to better results. A larger sensor is nothing else than a larger area. A crop of a large sensor is physically the same thing as a small sensor.
In certain cases, large sensors are just calibrated differently than small sensors. As large sensors usually capture more light than small sensors at base Iso, large sensors can underexpose/expose for the highlights (shorter exposure time) without causing too noisy shadows at base Iso. But it's important that it is still the choice of the manufacturer. If a manufacturer wants a small sensor to expose for the highlights, this isn't an issue at all.
A large sensor is really just a larger area that can capture light. It has no direct effect on the color profile, tone mapping, etc. At the same f number with the same exposure time, the amount of blown out highlights will be also about the same as with a small sensor. So in this case, more light only leads to less noise, nothing else. So you can simulate a sensor that is twice as large, if you simply take a photo with 1/30s Iso 100 instead of 1/60s Iso 200 (at the same f number). This gives you the difference you can expect from a sensor that is twice as large, really nothing special.
A large sensor also doesn't magically change the blur. A large sensor just makes it possible to design larger lenses for a given field of view. This is the real reason why there can be more background blur. The larger the sensor, the larger(!) the effective diameter of a lens needs to be, if you want the same field of view and same(!) f-number.
It's also important to remember that a large sensor can only capture the light that goes through the lens. A large sensor with a bad f-number could capture less light per time than a small sensor, in this case the large sensor produces more noise. For example there are multiple phones that capture more light per time than the Panasonic Cm1. The Vivo X60 Pro+ even captures more light per time than a Canon Aps-c camera + f/3.5 wide angle lens.

Nick Tegrataker, 26 Feb 2021Yeah, that's why I said "at least for now". ... moreI think they'd specialise in different areas. Wouldn't that be nice?

STE FAR 05, 26 Feb 2021IMX 800 would like to have a chat.Yeah, that's why I said "at least for now". If the rumour is correct and it will bring all the cutting edge hardware features that GN2 has, then IMX800 will be the best mobile image sensor a smartphone camera will ever have had, at least in terms of sheer specs.

Nick Tegrataker, 25 Feb 2021*cough* IMX766 is only half the size of GN2 *cough* and doe... moreIMX 800 would like to have a chat.

LAUGHABLE, 25 Feb 2021"cough" Sony IMX766""cough" Sorry ... more*cough* IMX766 is only half the size of GN2 *cough* and does not support dual conversion gain HDR *cough cough*

  • Anonymous

Jacktackle, 23 Feb 2021When everything was going in favour of this flagship, they ... more108 mp isnt that good :/ a 48mp sensor but with

Anonymous, 25 Feb 2021You do not need a sensor with a resolution of 108 megapixel... moreThe sensor itself is so huge that dynamic range, noise, etc is taken care of.

Try turning off auto night mode on Pixel or IPhone, you'll see a mediocre mess of an image.

Big sensor wins any day.
You guys focus so much on the 108mp number that you forget the sensors size at hand.

  • Anonymous

Jacktackle, 23 Feb 2021When everything was going in favour of this flagship, they ... moreYou do not need a sensor with a resolution of 108 megapixels in a smartphone at all, it is true that they will offer a higher level of detail to a photograph but only up to that point, that is the only advantage of having a sensor with such a resolution, unfortunately there is no ISP with sufficient processing power that can increase the quality of other sections in photography such as dynamic range, white balance, noise management, colour or tone accuracy, night photography, etc.
And although it is true that you can make use of pixel binning and get a larger pixel size to improve performance in low light conditions or reduce the amount of data to process to get a higher overall photographic quality you have to be aware that this is not the true pixel size and therefore the result will not be genuine enough and also why do you think that other smartphones like the iPhones or the Google Pixel with their lower and therefore "worse" resolution sensors compete strongly with those other smartphones with higher resolution sensors? And with all of the above said how do you think it would be in the video department?

  • LAUGHABLE

Nick Tegrataker, 24 Feb 2021Sony doesn't offer a mobile image sensor comparable to... more"cough" Sony IMX766""cough" Sorry what did you says

Anonymous, 23 Feb 2021Samsung Sensor is true but quality of xiomi is not trueHave you ever used a Xiaomi phone?

Anonymous, 23 Feb 2021I am hoping this blows the competition away, so far Xiaomi ... more"so far Xiaomi camera efforts have been lukewarm"
Uhh.. that's absolutely false.

mario, 23 Feb 2021OMG. Don't go with Samsung sensors :'( Sony does... moreSony doesn't offer a mobile image sensor comparable to GN2 in terms of sheer hardware specs, though. Technically this is the best sensor you can get on a smartphone, at least for now.

  • fahmy

mario, 23 Feb 2021OMG. Don't go with Samsung sensors :'( Sony does... morei am also looking forward imx766..

kiasunkiasi, 24 Feb 2021what's wrong with XiaoMi's quality? have you ever... moreIve had 3 Xiaomi/redmi phones ,and i could say that the build quality is above average if you are going to compare it with phones on the same price bucket. heck, the Mi 10t/ pro has now become the benchmark of flagship killers. You could have it side by side with the samsung s20 , and it will still comes up on top on performance.

Anonymous, 23 Feb 2021Samsung Sensor is true but quality of xiomi is not truewhat's wrong with XiaoMi's quality? have you ever own and use XiaoMi before?
personally I have no issue on XiaoMi's numerous products after many years