Kuo: no periscopes on iPhones until 2023

09 March 2021
The original forecast from the analyst was for 2022. Next year's model will get an upgraded telephoto camera, but it will have a standard lens.

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Markuss, 10 Mar 2021I wonder what will be the price of iphone in 2023, maybe be... moreThe iPhone 12 Pro Max for the 512 is $1399 I don’t think they’d make it $2500-3000

    AnonD-989007, 10 Mar 2021Well, they are not doing it because they will loose market ... moretrue, one thing i can imagine apple doing, charging 100-200 for the license on each phone and 300 for the cpu to go along with it, this will make it impossible for anyone to undercut them.

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      • 10 Mar 2021

      Shady69, 10 Mar 2021no one can compete with cause they are the only company to ... moreWell, they are not doing it because they will loose market share. Also, their reputation, their privilege, their profit. Imagine a Xiaomi or Realme phone with IOS (200-300eur) that works and performs the same as a 800-1000eur iphone. Lol. End of the world.

        yalim, 10 Mar 2021unless apple has serious competitors, why bother with major... moreno one can compete with cause they are the only company to use ios, if they were to license it to other companies they would a lot of market share. but they won't in the name of fake ass privacy and security.

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          • 10 Mar 2021

          unless apple has serious competitors, why bother with major upgrades? huawei has no change to compete due to bans. xiaomi flagships have no global footprint. oppo either. sony, lg and htc are almost gone. there is only samsung.

            Anonymous, 10 Mar 2021Yeah, but it brings people to the posts. Just show me one A... moreactually, we hate the company and their fanboys, as for me, i hate fanboys of any products or company.

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              • 10 Mar 2021

              Maria, 09 Mar 2021Everytime there is a news about Apple, everytime the people... moreYeah, but it brings people to the posts. Just show me one Apple post with less than 50 comments. Go on, I'll wait. Lol.
              70% of them are iphone haters to some degree. 25% are neutral. And 5% are actually iphone users who care about this comments. Lol.

              I don't understand some haters though. I think they are tiny people (not talking about height) with p*thetic lives. They are probably the same in real life too.
              I had multiple iphones and Android phones. And I am now on Android phone, I will probably won't buy an iphone any time soon. But I will not just start making hateful comments on internet, just because I can and it's easy.

                Markuss, 10 Mar 2021I wonder what will be the price of iphone in 2023, maybe be... moreWell iPhone 12 Pro models didn't cost any extra compared to last year so i have a feeling we have reached the price limit which over you shouldn't go. I mean Samsung already did that with S20 line and it went really bad and they lowered the prices with S21 line.

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                  • 10 Mar 2021

                  Anonymous, 09 Mar 2021No, periscope was used by Asus years ago. Real zoom with ... moreYet, nobody cared, lol.

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                    • 10 Mar 2021

                    Anonymous, 09 Mar 2021Longer focal length without having to use smaller sensor si... moreso a periscope lens is more efficient, but is it more expensive to produce?

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                      • 10 Mar 2021

                      Cutout, 09 Mar 2021Article's Quote, "This could be the last year of ... moreIf face ID is removed, what is the necessity of punch hole anyway? Samsung is expected to launch Z Fold 3 without punch hole and Apple should directly plan to adopt so.

                        I wonder what will be the price of iphone in 2023, maybe between 2500 to 3000 USD for base model.

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                          • 09 Mar 2021

                          At least a 3x regular telephoto would cut it as long as they get the image quality correct.

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                            • 09 Mar 2021

                            Article's Quote, "This could be the last year of Face ID on iPhone, however, as previous reports from Kuo indicate that Apple will switch to an in-display fingerprint reader in 2022 and replace the notch with a punch hole."

                            Great comedy. The notch is instrumental to the identity of the iPhone and shall never be replaced. Long may the iNotch live.

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                              • 09 Mar 2021

                              Anonymous, 09 Mar 2021periscope lens provide higher magnification zoom and optica... moreOne needs to take into account that "5x optical zoom" is a marketing term. Optical zoom doesn't reduce the megapixel count, but there are several "5x" cameras that only have 8 megapixels, so they don't have a true "5x optical zoom" setting. Furthermore, the focal length isn't 5x as large as the focal length of the 1x camera.

                              A 125mm field of view with 9 megapixels is possible without periscope technique. One simply needs to combine the 8.74mm f/2 OIS lens of the Xiaomi Mi Note 10 with a 0.7 micrometer sensor.
                              The disadvantage is that the camera would capture less light in perfect light conditions because the sensor area is smaller due to the smaller focal length. Though in bad light conditions there wouldn't be a disadvantage, in bad light conditions it would capture about the same amount of light per time from an object as Huawei's "5x" camera.

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                                • 09 Mar 2021

                                August Heart, 09 Mar 2021Apple really needs to upgrade from 12mp to 48 or 64MP lense... moreNot at all! Lower resolution means faster readout, faster focussing, better thermal. They need just a sensor with bigger photo diodes/pixels for an improved performance on night. And a real telephoto lens.

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                                  • 09 Mar 2021

                                  Why have a periscope when the notch dictates the identity of iPhones.

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                                    • 09 Mar 2021

                                    beep bop boop, 09 Mar 2021what advantage does a periscope camera even have over a tra... moreLonger focal length without having to use smaller sensor since it goes 90 degrees.

                                    For example, a 104mm 1/2" like s20 ultra without periscope would be huge. More than 1cm easily.
                                    The bump would be bizarre.

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                                      • 09 Mar 2021

                                      Samsung would install intergalactic zoom by then. 🤣

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                                        • 09 Mar 2021

                                        beep bop boop, 09 Mar 2021what advantage does a periscope camera even have over a tra... moreperiscope lens provide higher magnification zoom and optical zoom over traditional lenses. zenfone zoom used it first then huawei made it more popular. for example

                                        5x optical zoom cannot be achieved by a traditional telephoto lens (only applies to smartphones, not to real cameras) unless the company does some trick to make it "5x" optical zoom.