HarmonyOS will officially launch in April, the Huawei Mate X2 will be the first to get it

26 March 2021
A final beta version of Huawei's Android replacement OS will be rolled out next week.

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Anonymous, 30 Mar 2021Sure. Like running Android Emulator in Windows I would have... moreYour first paragraph doesn't make much sense grammatically (and I was referring to the HarmonyOS beta emulator that the writer used in the so called "deep dive" - Not that I was suggesting that the actual OS runs Android emulator on real devices), whereas the second one simply focuses on changing the subject to how many companies have been "disrespectful" for referring their custom Android skin as an "OS" instead of a "UI". Are we done here?

    bakamukako, 29 Mar 2021"It is. Why go into abstracts and concepts for this? S... moreThere you go with your pointless banter, trying to detract from the point of your denial of free speech. Nice one!

    Atleast it proves my point i guess, how desperate you are to try and cover up your denial.

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      Mar52 , 28 Mar 2021Without Google apps Huawei phones are DOA. With harmony OS ... moreWhell u clearny havent used theyre new apps/ecosystem then its not at all that bad in the west. Also basicly the only app missing is youtube of wich u can use the web app off. All the other apps or give youa opsion to log in wih google like theyre email app to sync it up or they have a replacement app for one like theyre maps app wich works supricingly well.

        Anonymous, 30 Mar 2021Sure. Like running Android Emulator in Windows I would have... moreI agree with most of what you said, but the only chinese company that likes to use names like xxxOS is BBK. "ColorOS" "OxygenOS" "Funtouch OS" etc. They are all from BBK brands.
        MIUI is literally "MI UI"... Dude. I've never seen it mentioned as "MIUI OS".

        HarmonyOS at this stage is basically just like Fire OS and LineageOS, what do you think about those 2 names?

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          Nick Tegrataker, 28 Mar 2021And I dislike your deliberate attempt to deviate the subjec... moreSure. Like running Android Emulator in Windows I would have ADB, but it Windows, because that the host. That what you're implying. Like Huawei imposed in their marketing PPT that their HCI product is OpenStack API compatible which in fact, it OpenStack core. There's just plenty to go by with Huawei. Look at their OWN track record.

          The difference is, most company author would respect its core and credit where its due. Much like Android in the early stage, more than once, give the credit to Linux. Your argument of have to be EXACT same code only than = Android is just as disrespectful as most of the Chinese vendor as I post early before, where most company will call it UI, but near all Chinese vendor called it OS. ColorOS, MIUI OS, etc. Nice justification.

            Mediatek sux, 29 Mar 2021"This is one of the abstract concepts you don't u... more"It is. Why go into abstracts and concepts for this? Such a simple thing. The article had no mention of bashing.
            If anyone lacked any empathy, its you. Denied the opinions of the entire bashers. Thats the important part here."

            Not being able to process abstract concepts (yes, one phrase, very important to not twist a technical term) is a sign of antisocial personality disorder. Your inability to distinguish between a "comment" and a "reply" on a forum is showing it. You wanted to know "What abstract concepts?" hence the mentioning, but you don't seem to see the connection here, which is only confirming my hypothesis.
            A "reply" means directing your response to specific target, like all your replies to me. You're not talking to another person. Like I said, if your "No need to tell others what to do either." were a regular comment instead of a direct reply to me, I wouldn't even be talking to you right now. Because that would be a statement of your mind, not a response to me.
            A "comment" is open to anyone who reads it, like my original post. It is stating what you want to say, to ALL viewers. It is a statement not a response to action. You are having major trouble to understand this. "No need to bash on it" is not a reply to all the ones who bashed on it. It's stating my opinion of bashing is unnecessary to ANYBODY who happens to read my post.
            Saying "no need to buy a double cheese burger" is not responding to everyone who's ever bought a double cheese burger and rejecting their right to buy it. It simply means I think there's no need to buy a double cheese burger, nothing more, no forcing, no target, no "denying". There is absolutely zero part of it "denying people's right to buy double cheese burgers".
            If someone wanted everyone who "bashed on it" to stop bashing, It would be "everyone bashing on it has to stop!".
            I bet they look the same to you, right?

            "It makes enough sense. Denial of the bashers opinion. Idk how to tell you that any better than that. Go take an english class or something if its still not clear to you."

            You're not answering the question. Please explain what "denying a section of the society criticism" is. Do you not have the ability to explain your own usage of words? Do you mean "social criticism"? "society's criticism"? "civil society criticism"? If it's any of them, what do you mean by that sentence? My best guess is you are referring to other people's comments, as that's the "criticism" of "society"? If I'm right, you gotta know you can't just put words together in your own grammar and expect others to understand you. This is also a sign of lacking empathy.
            It's not that I think you don't understand English. I know you don't based on all these things you've said so far.
            Another example would be: No one would say "entire bashers". "entire" means the wholeness of a singular thing. I believe you meant "the entire group of bashers" or simply "all the bashers". You also use "deny" in a very weird sense, by the way. The list could go on.
            What's your point of arguing with me about forum etiquette and meanings of English phrases when you don't even know English and don't read? You probably don't even know "no bashing" is literally in the posting rules. Your point didn't exist from the very beginning.

            "Did you? What is it supposed to mean then?"
            Like I've said before, you don't get the difference, and you don't wanna take my words for it (I've explained what it is supposed to mean for too many times already). Thus, you should ask somebody else who knows English to explain it to you. You replied to my post and started this conversation. I replied to you explaining my points. You don't want to accept any of it. Asking somebody else is the only thing you can do now.

            "As i said, you cant enforce a denial because you arent able to do so. Its your opinion, and you seem to care too much about it, even calling people delusional and stuff. I can imagine what you would do if you actually got free reign over that matter."

            This paragraph is exactly why I said you seem to be delusional, and it is worrisome.
            You saw my post of "Rome wasn't built in one day. No need to bash on a huge project in its infant stage." then jumped to "denying free speech", then to "you cant enforce a denial because you arent able to do so", then to "I can imagine what you would do if you actually got free reign over that matter".
            You jumped from seeing "no need to bash on it" to "this person must be talking to the bashers who posted and want them to stop talking and will do it when he has power", and you don't even think there's any other possibility. Not even after I explained to you what the difference is and I don't care whether people do it or not.
            he said no need to bash xxx > he is a free speech denier > he says he doesn't care must be because he can't enforce people because he doesn't have power > he will once he's gained power
            This is a very dangerous trend of associative thinking, and it's certainly abnormal. In every step of the thinking process here you have made strong conclusions based on your idiosyncratic ideas, while rejecting everything you hear. Focusing only on one side of the possibilities without thinking from another perspective, and you're determined about it. This is textbook-level lack of empathy.
            You also said "You basically told people not to bash a company." which is just utterly untrue.
            I thought you simply didn't read my post clearly. After pointing it out to you that I said to not bash on the project in its infant stage, not talking about the company, you replied with "This is a huge corporation, not an infant. But your 'opinion' is against that."
            This is exactly what you call delusion. I don't say "delusional" or "antisocial personality disorder" for fun. Again, not mocking you, not trying to harm you by saying them. You need to go check it up.

              bakamukako, 28 Mar 2021"You did reply to the comment section. Not air." ... more"This is one of the abstract concepts you don't understand. Post a comment is not "replying to everyone".

              It is. Why go into abstracts and concepts for this? Such a simple thing. The article had no mention of bashing.

              If anyone lacked any empathy, its you. Denied the opinions of the entire bashers. Thats the important part here.

              "I suggest you to find a better translator software. Because whatever language you translated your sentence from. "You are denying a section of the society criticism." doesn't make sense. What is the "section of the society criticism" you're referring to? Is this what "free speech" is in your language? Whatever it may be, it's not English."

              It makes enough sense. Denial of the bashers opinion. Idk how to tell you that any better than that. Go take an english class or something if its still not clear to you.

              "Speaking of free speech and English, did you go find somebody who knows English and ask them if saying "no need to bash on it" is "denying free speech"? Because you apparently still don't get it"

              Did you? What is it supposed to mean then? As i said, you cant enforce a denial because you arent able to do so. Its your opinion, and you seem to care too much about it, even calling people delusional and stuff. I can imagine what you would do if you actually got free reign over that matter.

              "You may not have antisocial personality disorder. No diagnosis can be made based on a few words in a forum. I'm only suggesting you to go check it up 'cause you do show some signs."

              Oh, so you do know something. Next time think outside your shrink bubble alright?

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                This is a crazy Linux derivate, Huawei technology is really bad

                  Gaia, 28 Mar 2021So Huawei will try to beat Android basically with AndroidNo with linux ... android is sub name of linux ... so huawei will have sub name harmony
                  all same

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                    Anonymous, 27 Mar 2021I'm not huawei fan but to be honest between the apple ... moreSimply Huawei is the best

                      Mediatek sux, 28 Mar 2021You did reply to the comment section. Not air. Yes, its ... more"You did reply to the comment section. Not air."
                      This is one of the abstract concepts you don't understand. Post a comment is not "replying to everyone".

                      "This is a huge corporation, not an infant. But your 'opinion' is against that."
                      Another fact you're twisting here. I said it multiple times already. The PROJECT is in its infant stage, not Huawei. After all this talk you still don't even seem to possess the ability to read and understand the difference, or you're just intentionally trying to mix it up. You're still putting words in my mouth, and this is a sign of lacking empathy (which is the main component of antisocial personality disorder). In addition, of course it's others' freedom to bash on it. Nobody is denying this fact. It's my opinion that there's no need to bash on it, but there's no part of this statement forceful to anyone. Thus, it is not "denying free speech" as you claimed. You have skipped the important part here completely, or just don't get the difference.

                      "Its just what it says. Antisocial behaviour from you."
                      I suggest you to find a better translator software. Because whatever language you translated your sentence from. "You are denying a section of the society criticism." doesn't make sense. What is the "section of the society criticism" you're referring to? Is this what "free speech" is in your language? Whatever it may be, it's not English.

                      Speaking of free speech and English, did you go find somebody who knows English and ask them if saying "no need to bash on it" is "denying free speech"? Because you apparently still don't get it.

                      "Im not hostile, you started your first comment being hostile to the entire bashers by denying them."
                      Go read your own comments. You've been throwing personal attacks out to the point your comment got deleted. Like I said you're lacking the very basic skills of online interaction.
                      If "Rome wasn't built in one day. No need to bash on a huge project in its infant stage." really seems like "being hostile to the entire bashers by denying them" and "denying free speech" to you, you do need help like I stated already.

                      "Me mimicking has nothing to with it."
                      Mimicking is a common trait of patients with antisocial personality disorder. Due to their lack of empathy they are not able to understand cues in conversations, so they often mimic others' to appeal relatable and emotionally normal. There are many research papers on this topic that you can look up on the internet for free.

                      You may not have antisocial personality disorder. No diagnosis can be made based on a few words in a forum. I'm only suggesting you to go check it up 'cause you do show some signs.

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                        Huawei Mate X2's main camera can be used for selfie too.

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                          So Huawei will try to beat Android basically with Android

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                            Without Google apps Huawei phones are DOA. With harmony OS is just a bunch of bush-wa! Maybe in China but not for the rest?

                              bakamukako, 27 Mar 2021I'm gonna reply to both of your comments here, one of ... moreYou did reply to the comment section. Not air.

                              Yes, its the freedom to bash at it whatever state its in. This is a huge corporation, not an infant. But your 'opinion' is against that.

                              "This sentence doesn't even make sense. I have no idea what you're trying to say here."

                              Its just what it says. Antisocial behaviour from you.

                              "This is my profession"

                              Time to change it then, or go see another for your own consultation.

                              "You're very hostile in all the comments; you're still constantly mimicking my words; and your inability to comprehend some abstract concepts is quite obvious. These are signs that shouldn't be ignored. You should seek help."

                              Im not hostile, you started your first comment being hostile to the entire bashers by denying them.What abstract concepts? Your bunch of quotes? Me mimicking has nothing to with it. If you think it does, go see a real shrink.

                                Anonymous, 27 Mar 2021Pretty ignorant, and I like the way your attempt to deviate... moreAnd I dislike your deliberate attempt to deviate the subject from whether it is the SAME as Android or not. Another OS running Android subsystem on top of it would be able to have ADB layer as well (and who confirmed that it works natively on Harmony, they might be just bridging ADB onto their own debugging protocol), and the early version of Harmony's SDK would be naturally similar to Android Studio given it uses Android for surface level user interaction and needs to take in existing Android developers to get all the 3rd party app developments going. And none of this is to do with what's actually happening beneath the system layer where all the applications and processes run.

                                The original article did not mention the OS' kernel level behaviour, lied about the development status of the compiler and didn't even bother looking at the company's own basic diagram of how it functions and is supposed to be implemented. Heck, the author even went far enough to assume that the emulators must be running on the mobile phone units (What, like Pokemon Go Grandpa? Why would they do that?). It was very flawed "deep dive" in the first place.

                                  Forked shmorked who gives a flying furk. I'm looking forward to giving it a try.

                                    Mediatek sux, 27 Mar 2021You are the one who's delusional. No amount of quoting... moreI'm gonna reply to both of your comments here, one of your comments got deleted and I can't remember everything you said in it:

                                    I didn't "reply to the entire comment section". That is called a comment. Similarly if you didn't reply to me and just said "No need to tell others what to do either." in a normal comment, I wouldn't even be talking to you right now.
                                    This is nothing but basic forum etiquette. Your reply made it personal.

                                    "No need to do something" is suggesting doing something is unnecessary. There is no point to do it. It's far different from forcefully "telling people not to do something". It's stating an opinion not forcing an opinion on anyone. Like saying "No need to buy a double cheese burger" in a regular post that anyone could read.
                                    That becomes an entirely different story when you reply to somebody else directly like you did. By this action you're giving the phrase an object and making it personal. Like staring somebody else in the eye and telling him "No need to buy a double cheese burger".
                                    I hope you could understand the difference here, but instead of paying attention to what I am saying, you're just throwing personal attacks out.
                                    Don't just take my words for it, go find somebody who knows English and ask them if saying "no need to bash on it" is "denying free speech". See if you can find the confirmation you need.

                                    "It doesnt matter what state the os currently is in. Why would that be an excuse of you telling people to not bash? If something is bad its bad."
                                    Again, I'm not "telling people not to bash", this is not directed to anyone, just like I really think there's no need to buy a double cheese burger, but I don't care whether people buy it or not. You need to understand "saying no need to XXX" and "telling people not to XXX" are different. "Telling people not to XXX" should be something like your action of telling me to not say "no need to bash on it".
                                    I've also literally explained "why" already. This project is still an infant. Do you laugh at an infant for not being able to speak English? There's no need to do that (but you can laugh at it, like I said it's your freedom and I don't care). Give it some time and see if Huawei really replaces all the AOSP codes with their own stuff. If not, I will bash the crap out of it with you.

                                    "You are denying a section of the society criticism."
                                    This sentence doesn't even make sense. I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

                                    I said you need to see a shrink from a professional standpoint, not for the sake of mocking you. This is my profession.
                                    You're very hostile in all the comments; you're still constantly mimicking my words; and your inability to comprehend some abstract concepts is quite obvious. These are signs that shouldn't be ignored. You should seek help.

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                                      Nick Tegrataker, 27 Mar 2021I believe Harmony running Android system for user interacti... morePretty ignorant, and I like the way your attempt to deviate the subject from whether or not HarmonyOS is/not Android.

                                      At is current state - it is a heavily skinned Android where its SDK is a port from Android and even has ADB layer (Android Debugging Bridge) https://shoewann0402.github.io/2020/09/12/reverse-analysis-of-the-frist-harmonyos-app/index.html

                                      It software installable package that comes with .hpa file extension in fact, can be extracted and output a single .apk file.

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                                        dagger906, 27 Mar 2021It's called Android compatibility layer. It's an ... moreNo its not. It is a heavily skinned Android AOSP. Even their SDK was ported from Android - this is being revealed in few reputable online publications. Stop spread false information.

                                        https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/02/harmonyos-hands-on-huaweis-android-killer-is-just-android/