Samsung details its ISOCELL HM3 sensor in new video

25 May 2021
Could we see the 108MP sensor make its way to non-Samsung phones?

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  • 30 May 2021

Eh its isocell theres already phones coming w/ 1" sensors~ Id rather larger sensor here than more mp~

    AnonD-994853, 25 May 2021Then why did lowlight videos are still noisy, dark, and sof... moreI'm hoping camera quality will be improved over time, my S8+ saw substantial improvements in image quality after the S9 was released

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      • 27 May 2021

      MineTheDays, 26 May 2021Samsung won't read thisAbsolutely

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        • Anonymous
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        • 26 May 2021

        Anonymous , 26 May 2021And that 108mp was created by Samsung. Nice try thoughBut Xiaomi polished their image processing algorithm on that phone.
        Do you undestand or selectively ignore things that don't fit your overview?

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          • 26 May 2021

          i0S.- Never.- Again, 25 May 2021Their lack of experience in camera department? Do you reme... moreAnd that 108mp was created by Samsung. Nice try though

            Anonymous, 25 May 2021Mi11 Ultra https://i.ibb.co/9vjgzyh/IMG-20210520-162721-Xi... moreOh man you must be blind 😂 the mi 11 Ultra has the best quality and exposure out of all three photos. You just proved me right lol.

              TheLastOracle, 25 May 2021Samsung you need to work on: 1. Your Computational Photogr... moreSamsung won't read this

                Samsung you need to work on:
                1. Your Computational Photography Algorithms. Your photos can be more detailed, and the noise reduction can be much smoother. Don't smudge details, where unnecessary. Also, don't process photos immediately. Add a little sharpness and detail enhancement, after the photo is taken.
                2. Tweak the CFA design.
                Hint: Bayer and repetitive square pixels cause aliasing and moire, and huge loss in detail (20-50%?). Also, the Bayer Pattern caused considerable light loss. You can't get rid of the colour arrangement, but you can make it disappear briefly and you can change the square, similar to your AMOLED but with a ... seemingly, non-repetitive pattern. That will increase both sensitivity and detail, and get rid of the colour fringing. Photos would look a Lot more detailed.
                3. Ensure the Tetracell /Quad Bayer doesn't create exact square pixels.
                4. Have a slightly more refined pre-burst mechanism for HDR. Keep a much higher Cache, and ensure that the background and other details are already being processed, well before the shutter is pressed. There will be a lot more detail to play around with.

                  Anonymous, 25 May 2021Mi11 Ultra might have ultimate hardware but results are sup... moreTheir lack of experience in camera department?
                  Do you remember the 108mp sensor that debut on mid range phone 2 years back? way before, Samsung launched their 108mp sensor on their Galaxy flagship?

                  Xiaomi got their camera processing dialed in during that time.
                  Now it has surpassed everything on the market. Mi 11 Ultra is the best camera on the market. This same opinion is echoed by anyone who has used it.

                    I have Mi11 Ultra since the first day it released in China.
                    At the very beginning, camera is 'average' compare to Vivo X60Pro+ and Mate 40Pro(both CN version).

                    In night time it definitly show advantage of bigger sensor. More clear,more bright compare to Vivo X60Pro+, more correct color compare to Mate40 Pro and even brightter although Huawei use RYYB.

                    In day time it do have some optimize problem,color is not as attractive as Vivo X60Pro+(I think Vivo flagship have best color since X50Pro+),somehow too many sharpen. Telephoto len have some bug,not as clear as the one on Mi10Ultra although both of them use same telephoto hardware.

                    In some situation it cant beat X60 Pro+ and Mate40Pro.
                    I will say it is a good camera phone,but not the best as they claimed and as what I expected.

                    But after receiving DXO version camera update at 5th,May. It do improve a lot. Problem of over sharpen are solved, telephoto lens work well now.Color is better now although still not the best one.
                    Now I dont think it is lack optimize,it should be top3 camera phone this year

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                      • 25 May 2021

                      ishreal, 25 May 2021You're the only person on earth who thinks this. Every... moreMi11 Ultra
                      https://i.ibb.co/9vjgzyh/IMG-20210520-162721-Xiaomi-Mi11-Ultra.jpg

                      LG Wing
                      https://i.ibb.co/SyWJjYw/20210520-162508-LGWing.jpg

                      Mate40 Pro
                      https://i.ibb.co/7b8Yp4k/IMG-20210520-164238-HUAWEI-Mate40-Pro.jpg

                      Huawei's photo is absolute garbage and just yesterday these forums were filled with comments proclaiming Huawei as the photography champ. LG Wind easily bested Mi11 Ultra and point and shoot situation.

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                        • 25 May 2021

                        Anonymous, 25 May 2021i highly disagree with that. but xiaomi's photo pro... moreMi11 Ultra might have ultimate hardware but results are super iffy thanks to their lack of photography experience, maybe they have the right people in the right places but it all needs to settle down and that will take time. One day, and that's pretty soon, they will have the best point and shoot results.


                          Anonymous, 25 May 2021Mi 11 Ultra takes garbage photos thanks to poor camera soft... moreYou're the only person on earth who thinks this. Every review of the camera, from big tech sites to technical independent reviewers, gave it glowing remarks. You must have absolutely terrible taste in photography lol.

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                            • 25 May 2021

                            Anonymous, 25 May 2021i highly disagree with that. but xiaomi's photo pro... moreIronically,it uses a Samsung sensor

                              i think Xiaomi will be the first to implement it,, their user love big number on spec sheet

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                                • 25 May 2021

                                Anonymous, 25 May 2021Mi 11 Ultra takes garbage photos thanks to poor camera soft... moreDo you have an M11 Ultra? Show and tell please.

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                                  • 25 May 2021

                                  Anonymous, 25 May 2021Mi 11 Ultra takes garbage photos thanks to poor camera soft... morei highly disagree with that.

                                  but xiaomi's photo processing(especially the corners which are soft and blurry ruin them) has seriously improved over the years.

                                  the bokeh is insane on the mi 11 ultra, though if with gcam, then it really can match the quality of a premium compact camera.

                                  at least mi 11 ultra does rule the point and shoot category in smartphones.

                                    Anonymous, 25 May 2021good that Sony and Omnivision aren't following Samsung... moreTrue that. For once, I'm glad Sony doesn't use Quad Bayer sensor for their flagship Xperia phones or else we won't have that superfast 20fps focusing.

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                                      • 25 May 2021

                                      good that Sony and Omnivision aren't following Samsung's dumb Nona-Bayer stuff. First of all, who seriously shoots 108 MP pictures? Who wants to have pictures that are 30 MB instead of 3 MB? There isn't much gain anyway.
                                      I prefer normal Bayer sensors. Less subpixels mean faster readout, better autofocus (look how good the Sony Xperia flagships can focus), better dynamic range, less processing for same result, less production costs (108 million pixels are more expensive to produce than 12)
                                      I can see how 50 MP can be slightly better than 12 MP in tiny phone sensors, but 108 is overkill. also, Nona-Bayer sensors can't produce clean RGGB fusions, so that also means that the quality can't be real 108 MP.

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                                        • 25 May 2021

                                        "what makes a great camera?"

                                        Not vivid color. It should be realistic color.

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