Several Chinese smartphone makers are already testing the Snapdragon 888 successor

14 June 2021
The next flagship chipset from Qualcomm is expected to arrive later this year.

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Can someone technical tell me the real world benefit (s) of arm v9 instructions with these newer phones?

    Anonymous, 14 Jun 2021Will it be named as Snapdragon 988, 898 or 889?Nope. They'll start the 900 series when they use nuvia cores

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      • 14 Jun 2021

      DocShep, 14 Jun 2021Better than Apple's Apple's M1 is way better than Qualcomm's

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        • TL%
        • 14 Jun 2021

        Will it be named as Snapdragon 988, 898 or 889?

          good, hopefully the new chipset has less cross talk, thus runs cooler than the 888. the 888 requires too much throttling to keep it within the necessary temperature parameters.

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            • 14 Jun 2021

            As usualy and as always better tahan Apple or lets say TSMC because apple never invented anything.
            Every piece of technology they have they litterary bought from another chinese company such as TSMC, or Samsung or Foxconn etc.
            No wonder apple is so expensive.
            Wendor price 5 times bigger than manufacturing price hence the chinese companies and workers get lover than a low salary and earnings from every device they made for apple.

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              • ijs
              • 14 Jun 2021

              Gotta hope it wont overheat so much

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                • 14 Jun 2021

                Kangal, 14 Jun 2021According to the details ARM released, we're in for a ... moreOld chips, I know what u mean but I really prefer my 5G chip and nearly 600 mbps speed instead og around 100 mbps etc etc

                  Any heating issues once again?

                    Kangal, 14 Jun 2021According to the details ARM released, we're in for a ... more'Version 9 introduces the Confidential Compute Architecture, CCA. It is a hardware-based secure environment that protects to code and data from even privileged software.' This.

                    I don't care much about performance increase as even 865 has more power than 95% of users will ever use.

                      The only thing I hope they work on is heating issues... Anything else is fine as it is

                        SpiritWolf, 14 Jun 2021ARMv9 is reason why i will skip new phone this year and kee... moreAccording to the details ARM released, we're in for a side-grade.
                        The performance increases in the Cortex-A510 are tiny, and come at expense of efficiency.
                        The Cortex-A710 has a trade-off between efficiency or performance, so one comes at the expense of the other. Overall it's a very little increase, which should mean the same thing for the Cortex-X2 as that's derived from the Cortex-A710.

                        Now here's the important part, these are only theoretical.
                        In practice, it is likely worse. ARM/Qualcomm/OEMs always forget to factor in thermal throttling during this early stage. So we can even expect a REGRESSION in performance and efficiency (+5nm) from next years 2022 phones. And there won't be any revolutionary software to take advantage of the new architecture anyways. This is going to be somewhat reminiscent/similar to comparing the old (22nm) QSD 805 to the QSD 808 and QSD 810 (20nm) that let most consumers down, with the huge leap that happened a year later (16nm) on the Cortex-A72. The next iteration/version of ARMv9 should bring in a big (or bigger) architecture upgrade in efficiency and performance, plus we should get a node shrink too (TSMC 3nm) in 2023. So I recommend waiting for those, after that, I think we will see smaller and slower gains fyi.

                        If I was you, I would NOT upgrade to a next years flagship.
                        Just stick with a Snapdragon 855 (or better/if cheap), as there's not much real-world improvements beyond that. I'm personally considering the Snapdragon 780G. I say that because there really is not much upgrade moving from 855 /855+ /780G /860 /865 /865+ /870 /888 /888+. This tier of performance should be plenty fast for everyone until 2023, unless you use even Faster Hardware, Native Software, Optimised Code... ergo iPhone.

                          IpsDisplay, 14 Jun 2021What are you talking about keeping up? Do you mean the c... moreTypically, but I feel with how the pandemic has changed things, it never hurts to release it in January instead of December.

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                            Dometalican, 14 Jun 2021They can't even keep up with the current state of thei... moreBecause they are already working on the 2022 phones.
                            OEMs take almost 1 year to develop new generation.

                              I hope they don't make another "Snapdragon 888".

                                ARMv9 is reason why i will skip new phone this year and keep my trusty P30 Pro for another year. Pretty pointless to buy a flagship with 'old' specs. Especially if leap is so significant.

                                  Better than Apple's

                                    Dometalican, 14 Jun 2021They can't even keep up with the current state of thei... moreWhat are you talking about keeping up?

                                    Do you mean the chip shortage? If so then that has nothing to do with with making OEMs doing their initial testings

                                    This is common practice in the industry to have test done months in advance, preparing supply chains, making contracts etc

                                      Pretty sure that Xiaomi will be the first in line with what they did with the Mi 11.

                                        They can't even keep up with the current state of their chipsets. Why already send these upcoming chipsets to those companies when we just crossed the 2021 halfway mark?

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