Valve Steam Deck is a handheld gaming PC that runs SteamOS
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Tonyfromdowntheway, 21 Jul 2021For it to be a switch killer it would have to play nintendo... moreIt runs switch games thought so yeah, switch killer
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Sin, 28 Jun 2022How long will it be till value does a sony says it is a pc ... moreSteam just recently started to work on beta in chrome os, they still had to solve things,
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Sin, 28 Jun 2022How long will it be till value does a sony says it is a pc ... moreValve more than selling steam decks need to convince people into using their store, Steam OS is a way to do it but if they start locking systems to Steam OS people won't install or just will go out if the way to not use their service, and unlike SONY they don't have exclusive games so people can avoid using their platforms altogether
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How long will it be till value does a sony says it is a pc with linux on it then locks it down just like a game console just look at what sony did too the ps2 & ps3
Also why can't we install android on the steam deck blocked ?
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Vegetaholic, 20 Jul 2021At last, Switch killer, is what we needed in handheld space... moreThe first requirement to be a challenger is to sell at retail.
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Vegetaholic, 20 Jul 2021At last, Switch killer, is what we needed in handheld space... moreFor it to be a switch killer it would have to play nintendo games. You cant kill a nintendo system with this. The market this is going into is against laptops. So no its not a "Switch killer" and its rather stupid to think a pc gaming machine is going to make nintendo sweat.
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- 20 Jul 2021
At last, Switch killer, is what we needed in handheld space absolite beast
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Fulljack, 20 Jul 2021really? I just watch a video some guy running Cyberpunk 207... moreman always link your source, i had to search youtube now ryzen 5300u play cyberpunk in this video around 19 to 21fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7-lBdckAbc&t=450s
in same video he tested doom eternal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7-lBdckAbc&t=270s
stable 40fps sometime it reach over 50fps.
so you see at same hardware cyberpunk is heavy we can barely get 20fps in mainstream cpu, while consistenly we get 40 to 50fps in doom eternal.
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Hemedans, 20 Jul 2021That is true for almost any game, don't forget you are... morereally? I just watch a video some guy running Cyberpunk 2077 on HP laptop using Ryzen 3 5300U. so it's not heavy games after all, huh
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Fulljack, 20 Jul 2021just set the graphics on high and 1080p and it'll lag ... moreThat is true for almost any game, don't forget you are in deck vs switch discussion, that game run on 540P or 720p (docked) in switch, so why should we judge it if it's heavy by using 1080p standard?
But in other way Cyberpunk even in 720p won't run.
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Hemedans, 20 Jul 2021Show me Doom eternal lag on zen 2 or tiger lake Cpu, htt... morejust set the graphics on high and 1080p and it'll lag easily.
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Fulljack, 20 Jul 2021because it's as irrelevant and as arbitrary as your de... moreShow me Doom eternal lag on zen 2 or tiger lake Cpu,
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O9AhoNfqDFE&vl=en
That's ryzen 4500u 50 to 60fps,
If you don't trust my source bring yours.
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Hemedans, 20 Jul 2021So now you include recent desktop class Gpu and cpu which i... morebecause it's as irrelevant and as arbitrary as your definition of heavy games.
I mean Doom Eternal still could lag on on the laptops that you said couldn't handle Cyberpunk 2077. So Doom Eternal is a heavy games or not?
I'm just using your argument against your logic, really.
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Fulljack, 20 Jul 2021it's because the limitation of GPU, not the CPU. I thi... moreSo now you include recent desktop class Gpu and cpu which is gaming desktop in switch and deck discussion? How is that relevant?
And it doesn't matter if it's gpu heavy or cpu heavy as long as it doesn't run well on mainstream machines that can be heavy.
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Hemedans, 19 Jul 2021Cyberpunk 2077 is good example of our time. Even Latest Cor... moreit's because the limitation of GPU, not the CPU. I think you need to understand the difference of such and the workload that shared between the two. also Vega 8 and Xe-LP are for eSports, AAA gaming it's shit.
according to your logic, Cyberpunk 2077 isn't heavy game too because a Ryzen 5 1600 with RX 5600XT could ran that shit, too. sorry, your argument are invalid with yourself kek.
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Fulljack, 19 Jul 2021cool argument, example of such games?Cyberpunk 2077 is good example of our time. Even Latest Core i5/i7 from Tiger lake struggle to run it, and ryzen 4500u (same architecture as deck) cant reach 30fps.
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Hemedans, 19 Jul 2021It doesn't matter if it's optimized or not, as lo... morecool argument, example of such games?
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Anonymous, 19 Jul 2021I don't think that you can run most Switch games at fu... moreMost games Are playable Xbox 360 and ps3,
My rig has i7 4790, gt 1030 and 12gb ram (deck is more powerful than my rig) and I can play my favorites jrpg like lost Odysses and ffxiii without a problem, also these new handheld like onexplayer, gpd etc can handle 360 and ps3 emulation somehow.
This Apu can operate as low as 4W, no need to go 15W, around 2 to 3ghz you can get enough perfomance to run most of games without producing much heat and drawing more power. Let's wait for reviews first, all these speculations will end.
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GyariSan, 19 Jul 2021For the people who purchase it’s not stupid at all. Let’s s... moreI said that it's stupid to buy this device to mainly play 2D games. Most of the things you listed are irrelevant to what I said. The Switch games are also discounted regularly. You can check it. It's much different from the past. Most 2D games don't have online play. The Nintendo eShop works. It goes under maintenance from time to time, but most of the time, it works. Connecting a controller kind of defeats the purpose of a handheld device. It's dumb to connect it to a TV/monitor to use it as a PC. I'm sure that everyone who is going to buy this device has a decent PC. Why buy this to use it as a weaker PC? I mean, yes, you can do that if you want, but it will serve no purpose for most people. 2D games won't require grip buttons and track pads. I don't see why you'll use a mouse to play 2D games.
In my opinion, this device will be most useful if you use it to play AAA games, and that's my point. If you mainly play AAA games, the battery life may only last for 2 hours, which is way too short. It won't be fun to be able to only have fun for 2 hours per session.
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Hemedans, 19 Jul 2021Many switch games are playable with yuzu and Ryujinx so yes... moreI don't think that you can run most Switch games at full speed on this device. It's a very powerful handheld device, but it's still quite weak compared to latest desktop PCs.
The Switch can't play PS2, PS3, and Xbox 360 games. Isn't is obvious? I didn't say this because I thought it was a rhetorical question. Also, as I said, it's beside the point. My point is about the battery life. It's you who brought emulation up. Emulation of not-so-old games requires a lot of processing power, though. So the battery life may only last for 2 hours when you emulate those games on this device.
Anyway, I don't follow the emulation communities for years. Can you emulate PS3 and Xbox 360 games at full speed now? A few years ago, you can't.