Nokia XR20 is a rugged 5G phone with 4 years of updates

27 July 2021
With MIL-STD810H, the XR20 can withstand drops of 1.8m and water up to a meter and a half.

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SShreyas, 12 Aug 2021Getting an ODM design your phone saves a lot of money and i... moreI agree with you. I never talked about the phones that came since 2019, but I always preferred the in-house designed ones. Btw I didn't know that Nokias are more expensive in your country compared to Samsungs while here it's the opposite

    Minu, 12 Aug 2021I don't disagree with your opinion but still all of th... moreGetting an ODM design your phone saves a lot of money and it is acceptable for Xiaomi doing that since their phones are dirt cheap. But for brands like HMD to price their phones even more expensive than Samsung and still using ODMs (rather than designing) for almost all of their devices is just unacceptable.
    What's the "premium" HMD is asking for, if it can't even design one single handset?

    And this trend was started in HMD only in the year 2019. Prior to that every phone of HMD had a very distinct looks because they were designed by HMD and manufacturing was done by Foxconn.

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      SShreyas, 11 Aug 2021How dumb one can be? https://nokiamob. net/2021/01/17/larg... moreI don't disagree with your opinion but still all of these look the same as what Xiaomi and other brands would make and who knows if Samsung must be hiding their statistics or lying about them? Anyways I'd like to see phone companies start to make their own phones again instead of depending on ODMs if possible to keep their originality. The only thing I'm happy about is that my current phone didn't go through the repairs my previous Samsung had, which was a total burden

        Minu, 11 Aug 2021Hello again, I'm not making any assumptions here, but... moreHow dumb one can be?
        https://nokiamob. net/2021/01/17/large-number-of-modern-phones-including-nokia-are-designed-by-odm-companies/

        This was my source. It clearly says Samsung's 22% phones launched in 2020 that were designed by ODMs. For trasHMD, the number goes all the way upto 88%, i.e, 4 times the no. of Samsung.
        P.S: I've attached the same source in one of my earlier comment, too. Look for it.

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          Anonymous, 11 Aug 2021Samsung doesn´t even last 3 years. Every Samsung has broken... moreVery true, my J3 2016 had 2 motherboard replacements due to poor signal as well as earpiece and mic issues (any part of the phone costs more than its selling price). But still that feels original enough compared to those giraffes Samsung (actually Huaqin and Wingtech) makes nowadays and a removable battery, AMOLED display etc to say the least

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            SShreyas, 01 Aug 2021Do you have any data or are making assumptions like most? ... moreHello again,
            I'm not making any assumptions here, but here's proof for how Samsung depends on ODMs

            http://www.thelec.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=659

            https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1XR0TJ

            https://amp.scmp.com/tech/gear/article/3038499/samsungs-manufacturing-retreat-china-leaves-room-outsourcing-provider

            Also there's a folder in newer Samsung phones with a text file in a folder named "odm" (surprisingly absent in all, if not most Nokias, not defending Nokia here tbh) that mentions "广东华勤技术" (Source: I saw this in my aunt's A51 while looking for files in the root directory, and yes it's original)

              Anonymous, 11 Aug 2021Samsung doesn´t even last 3 years. Every Samsung has broken... moreI hate Samsung. Never understood till date how are they ruling the industry.
              But my Galaxy Y from 2011, Tab 2 10.1 from 2012 and Tab A from 2016 never even had a hitch. Of course, I am excluding batteries.

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                Samsung doesn´t even last 3 years. Every Samsung has broken under 2 two years. Not quality what i expect 1300 euros phone. Every samsung phone break right away when warranty ends.

                  techmesto, 10 Aug 2021And oh boy, do you know how to comprehend and make a meanin... moreWell I agree with most of your point this time.
                  "Neither is Ulefone any brand to compare against, nor is it widely available"
                  It was my mistake I compared Ulefone (which has been manufacturing rugged devices even before trasHMD was formed) to compare it with a €550 paper weight.

                  "We do not compare to devices that aren't available and that do not have any market presence or brand value. Because in that case, a radnom no-brand Chinese phone is always better than the Galaxy, or the Pixel or the iPhone because it is cheap"
                  Wait. Are talking of trasHMD here? Because their only purpose is to buy an unbranded Chinese phone, slap a "Nokia" on front and back, multiply their cost by 5 times, then FOOL the innocent consumers.
                  Well, its's not my problem if you suddenly decides to stop watching Dora the explorer, pickup a phone that was lying near you and start typing anything that came to your head.
                  Have you heard these names:
                  Blackview
                  Caterpillar Inc
                  DOOGEE
                  Juniper Systems Inc
                  Sonim Technologies Inc
                  Zebra Technologies Corporation
                  OUKITEL
                  AGM MOBILE
                  Ulefone Mobile
                  Unitech Electronics Co., LTD
                  If not, then let me tell you dimwit, these are the brand with LARGEST MARKET SHARE in rugged smartphone business.

                  "Then Ulefone does not give you any special warranty (you are comparing 3 years of warranty to just 1, that too with almost no physical presence. You go to your reseller who may or may not help with the problem on your device.) And let's not even talk of software updates, right?"
                  Laughable comment. Nothing else.
                  Basically, paying almost €150 for a, "indestructible paper weight" with incomparable specsheet is only for getting 2 years of extra warranty? Better save your money and buy $15 third party warranty, rather than paying 10 times more.
                  You don't wanna talk about updates? Okay. Let's talk about option to unlock bootloader. Ohh, trasHMD doesn't allow you to, right?

                  "Specs are important, but they aren't everything. The XR20 can be an decent device for less demanding users who do not do gaming on their device"
                  That a good way to defend a €550 paper weight, isn't it? This f-king SoC can't even capture 4k video, let alone the "luxury" of even watching an advertisement on YouTube.
                  (In any case you come up with a user who don't want to shoot 4K in 2021, kindly help him buy a €30 feature for his needs)

                  "but come on, it isn't an absolute trash either. It will suit the needs of a lot of people - just let them experience and decide"
                  I would choose to help people to stay away from scammers who have licensed a dead legendary brand rather than making them go through horrible experience.

                  "And whose name am I spoiling? The name is so clear and it is owned by me, nobody else"
                  This is GSMArena, not you family WhatsApp group. Inexperienced people who haven't used anything except feature, don't know a percent of the industry they are talking of should not comment here and there.
                  For "techmesto", it is a website owned by Narender Singh (aka SinghNSK), an Indian developer who found a way to unlock bootloader of trasHMD and elongate its life span. Techmesto is the website from where you can pay and avail his services.

                    SShreyas, 27 Jul 2021Do you know how to read? If not, then get the comment of t... moreAnd oh boy, do you know how to comprehend and make a meaningful statement? When somebody says that the CPU is not as bad, you inject another brand's device that doesn't compete with this one directy. The products are in a different categories and can't be directly compared across. The Nord and XR20 are devices aimed at different kinds of users.

                    For the Ulefone or whatever it is, the comparison is absurd. Neither is Ulefone any brand to compare against, nor is it widely available. We do not compare to devices that aren't available and that do not have any market presence or brand value. Because in that case, a radnom no-brand Chinese phone is always better than the Galaxy, or the Pixel or the iPhone because it is cheap. You'll even find something better than the OnePlus Nord if you really are loking to import devices from elsewhere. The XR20 will be available to users (as compared to importing the Ulefone from IDK where). You will not be paying high customs duties that you will very likely pay for the Ulefone which is generally an easy 30% markup (taxes extra) - and in case you evase the duties, you know where your ethics are going. Then Ulefone does not give you any special warranty (you are comparing 3 years of warranty to just 1, that too with almost no physical presence. You go to your reseller who may or may not help with the problem on your device.) And let's not even talk of software updates, right?

                    Specs are important, but they aren't everything. The XR20 can be an decent device for less demanding users who do not do gaming on their device. And if its warranty and long software support lasts it long enough, it will be an overall cheaper asset to own over the years. I am not saying that the Nokia XR20 is the best device that money can buy or that everybody should choose it, but come on, it isn't an absolute trash either. It will suit the needs of a lot of people - just let them experience and decide.

                    And whose name am I spoiling? The name is so clear and it is owned by me, nobody else. Next time, talk on what makes sense and stop making assumptions out of nowhere. You aren't the only smart brain that exists in the world. Just look out of the window and everybody is smart enough.

                      Carol, 02 Aug 2021Oh, even worse, where do you read your benchmarks? Ah, who ... moreHave you ever been to play school? Consider going back there and learning addition/subtraction, then come back and subtract GPU scores from total scores of 480, then mind writing sh!t here

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                        SShreyas, 29 Jul 2021If you don't know what you're talking about, the ... moreOh, even worse, where do you read your benchmarks? Ah, who cares, sour not worth talking too.

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                          Speedy, 01 Aug 2021I Will get one tomorrow, payed 500 euro. I also have Nokia ... moreBravo 🙂

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                            I Will get one tomorrow, payed 500 euro. I also have Nokia 9, Nokia 5.3, Nokia 8.3

                              Anonymous, 31 Jul 2021Man u tripping real bad nowIt hurts. Doesn't it, fanboy?

                                Minu, 31 Jul 2021Just don't forget how most brands (that includes Samsu... moreDo you have any data or are making assumptions like most?
                                Samsung designs most of their devices nad relies on ODMs for only 22% of their portfolio which primarily includes budget and lower mid-range products.
                                Apart from HMD, only Lenovo is the one relying on ODMs to that extent. And they don't exist in the market (at least, here in India) just like HMD

                                Here's the source: (kindly remove the [SPACE] before "net")
                                https://nokiamob. net/2021/01/17/large-number-of-modern-phones-including-nokia-are-designed-by-odm-companies/

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                                  SShreyas, 31 Jul 2021You still don't get it. HMD not only relies on ODMs f... moreJust don't forget how most brands (that includes Samsung, BBK, Huawei and Xiaomi, despite having their own service centres) depend totally on ODMs for their design, components and manufacturing. No wonder why almost all phones nowadays basically look and feel the same

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                                    I love Nokia

                                      SShreyas, 31 Jul 2021You still don't get it. HMD not only relies on ODMs f... moreI'm sorry for your and others bad experience. Don't want or need to convince you otherwise. If it comes to aftercare service, my experience is that the brand doesn't matter. Most are just shit and several visits or ups deliveries are necessary before any device get fixed. Certainly Apple's service unless it's a crystal clear case of warranty

                                        SShreyas, 30 Jul 2021Oh never mind. My Nokia 1100 was faster than Samsung, Apple... moreLol, now that was a good Nokia, the 1100. Still have one somewhere I think.

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