Leakster: the Snapdragon 898 will run its Cortex-X2 prime core at 3.09 GHz
- joe nodden
- j5{
- 09 Oct 2021
JackDorpey, 02 Sep 2021The real question to ask is: Will it fry chicken?Knowing Samsung's horrible nodes, yes.
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- Kael
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- 11 Sep 2021
Wews, 08 Sep 2021You are right. The soc makers have to focus on efficiency. ... moreYup, consistency and temperature managrment are more important in a powerful chip. base on my studies and experiences chips is too hot their CPU is too hot, when it happens performance goes down significantly. I understand that thermal throttling but. Some of them is too hot
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- 08 Sep 2021
Davy Jones, 30 Jul 2021Enough of this performance madness Qualcomm need to shift t... moreYou are right. The soc makers have to focus on efficiency. We want an efficient chip rather than a faster chip. We dont care about benchmarks lol. Optimization is better than performance. So i'll gonna go to sd 780g
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- JackDorpey
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- 02 Sep 2021
The real question to ask is:
Will it fry chicken?
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- Tech Newbie 0
- I@H
- 28 Aug 2021
I thought SD 898 will be having (1 × 3.2 GHz) +(3 × 2.62 GHz) + (4 × 2.05 GHz) chipset?🤔
While the other brand has (2 × 3.2GHz) + (6 × 2.05 GHz)?🤔
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- 19 Aug 2021
Anonymous, 05 Aug 2021I think Crapsung is trying to destroy Snapdragon and I can&... moreTalking about Snapdragon real successor while using recycled 2yo processor, smh..
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- Anonymous
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- 19 Aug 2021
If they dare release it with just 6gb ram, it will fail. There is a reason the ipad pro released with upto 16gb ram. Anyone who uses email knows that ram usage increases over time. In addition with the start of microsoft 365 services more ram is required on devices. 6gb ram is not enough to run MS-EXCEL well and it crashes if you try to use it for what it was made to be used.
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- tue
- 10 Aug 2021
Anonymous, 05 Aug 2021I think Crapsung is trying to destroy Snapdragon and I can&... moreThat phone of yours won't reach a decade
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- Anonymous
- iAE
- 05 Aug 2021
I think Crapsung is trying to destroy Snapdragon and I can't believe after the 888 fail they will let them ruin the next flagship!!! I'm just going to sit with this Poco x3 Pro for a decade I guess until Snapdragon gets a real successor
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- Angry Pikachu
- iAE
- 05 Aug 2021
I can't believe we went from Plus versions having a little higher clocks to Plus versions being made by TMSC while the normal version will overheat because of Samsung. It's like the Samsung phone situation with Snapdragon and Exynos depending on region zzzzzzzzzz. Can Samsung retire already and go ruin something else
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- Anonymous
- vx6
- 02 Aug 2021
Different details/rumors. Might as well wait for the official announcement. Though it is kinda sucks that they chose Samsung over TSMC like they didn't learn anything from SD 888.
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- Anonymous
- 7X1
- 02 Aug 2021
Just skip this for TSMC's SD898 variant w/c will not get dumb down by Samsung. Just look how 888 is heating up.
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- Anonymous
- rN7
- 01 Aug 2021
Anonymous, 29 Jul 2021Nothing too do with Snapdragon, blame the OEMs, Sony Pro is... moreHey their thermal limits are worse than others and their phones are the most over priced.
- OhNom
- Cfs
- 01 Aug 2021
Anonymous, 01 Aug 2021Depends. There is somebody readying a 6Ghz processor in Eng... moreYes, but I understand that to reach those speeds you need metal microlaminate packaging because they have a low inductance and can accelerate it up to 100 Ghz, but I was referring to pure silicon, with silicon rectifiers 1Khz can be achieved, but I had never seen it running I'll investigate what you said
- OhNom
- Cfs
- 01 Aug 2021
AnonD-1003038, 01 Aug 2021You do know that people run 5GHz all core CPU's 24/7 ?... moreYes, well maybe I exaggerate a bit with highly refrigerated, they keep it at 5.3 Ghz, but the other thing I think I'm right
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- 01 Aug 2021
OhNom, 30 Jul 20215 Ghz can be maintained in a highly refrigerated environmen... moreYou do know that people run 5GHz all core CPU's 24/7 ? We had 5GHz during AMD Bulldozer era and many Intel CPU's run at 5GHz. Water cooled, sure, but nothing extreme like LN or DICE.
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- Anonymous
- 7tm
- 01 Aug 2021
Anonymous, 01 Aug 2021Depends. There is somebody readying a 6Ghz processor in Eng... moreMy apologies, around 200ghz test silicon was driven years ago. Not 200Thz (I should do a calculation based on possible minium size of photonic transistor, and see how close the can get).
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- Anonymous
- kky
- 01 Aug 2021
Anonymous, 31 Jul 2021Wish they went to TSMC, Samsung is going to sabotage it again.Uh huh.....
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- kky
- 01 Aug 2021
Anonymous, 31 Jul 2021It's a shame how Samsung sabotages Qualcomm just becau... moreRight......
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- 01 Aug 2021
OhNom, 30 Jul 20215 Ghz can be maintained in a highly refrigerated environmen... moreDepends. There is somebody readying a 6Ghz processor in England I think.
The more complex the chip the more heat problems you get. As I'm talking about arrays packed together, you still get issues. But I know people who do stripped down circuitry and get lowest power consumption in history at that stage, and still a big process. But, as a single core they could probably greatly exceed 10Ghz using cooling, but that wouldn't mean much, as the technology is designed to work in arrays, and arrays of hundreds etc.
The limit of silicone is actually somewhere on the way to 200Thz or more. But, by the time you put it in a complex circuit, with safety Parra enters and so forth, and regular cooling, that speed drops off drastically. Magnetic processors have multiple terahertz potential, but when they come to do MQDCA they struggle to get past 500mhz.l, due to timing issues, even though 1000000 times less power consumption, at close to the highest efficiency possible. Maybe that is a lot more now, but it illustrates how things drop off and the following, changing design might increase performance. They are using other magnetic computing architectures and expecting 50ghz to maybe, from memory, 150ghz.
Now, these guys could do something equivalent to arm at 10ghz using stripped down complexity, which gets rid of the multiple timing chains for asynchronous, pipelines and out of order execution etc (though the long instruction word instruction set processor the chief designer did in the early to mid 1980's, supported multiple instruction type packing with automatic parallel execution of dependence free instructions without these circuits), and reduces the layers right down. The power consumption savings are likely 10x that of what arm can achieve. So, yeah, 10ghz is possible, maybe on phone. It would be interesting to see what Arm could achieve using these design techniques, but still unlikely to match, as their instruction set is highly optimised for efficiencies and design simplification efficiencies compared to Arm.