Google's "custom" Tensor SoC might be just an unreleased Exynos

06 August 2021
The chipset will be manufactured by Samsung, but it seems like there's more to that company's participation in the project.

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Anonymous, 09 Aug 2021No, it doesn't. Look it up.Don’t be mad,one day Samsung and Qualcomm will get closer to A14 and M1 Performance but that will be a few generations from now when they are old. :)

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    • Anonymous
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    • 09 Aug 2021

    OhNom, 08 Aug 2021Excuse me, now I understood the stupidity you wrote, I thou... moreIt was a waste of time trying to explain a simple thing to you.

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      • Anonymous
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      • 09 Aug 2021

      SizN80, 08 Aug 2021If the A14 has to throttle it will probably still outperfor... moreNo, it doesn't. Look it up.

        P C M, 07 Aug 2021You guys are true haters. GSMARENA's test already sh... moreI just... Nvm

          Oh maan... Thats gonna be a deal breaker.
          Exynos sucks big time.

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            • ChrisGX
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            • 09 Aug 2021

            Samsung announced a year ago the Exynos 1080, a Cortex-A78 based SoC that so far hasn't been found in any smartphone by any Android phone vendor. The thing about the Exynos 1080 is that Samsung meant to sell it to other mobile phone manufacturers, which was unusual because, previously, Samsung had manufactured high end ARM SoCs only for its own needs, viz. for its own premium mobile handsets. Now, the Exynos 1080 bore a remarkable resemblance to the chip described in the Axios article that first mentioned that Google (in cooperation with Samsung) was working on Whitechapel.

            This new story/rumour adds nothing of substance to earlier reports. The Exynos 1080 was publicly announced at last August's Galaxy Unpacked event and it is still the closest thing we have to the chip that Axios described in its earlier article on Whitechapel. So, now we have some internal part numbers to stir into the mix but those part numbers don't clarify anything nor do they make the original Axios story more or less credible. Besides, Google has announced Tensor so it won't be long before we have all the juicy details.

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              • AnonD-1003038
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              • 09 Aug 2021

              So Google works with Samsung for chipset design and fabrication. Big deal? How does it make it any less theirs? Even if Google just approached Samsung and said "make us a mobile chipset" and that would still be Google's chipset. Because they ordered one and it's not an off the shelf part sold to bunch of OEM's, it'll be their chipset only. Or they just tweaked clocks different than Samsung did and that still makes it theirs.

                [deleted post]If the A14 has to throttle it will probably still outperform anything Samsung or Qualcomm,LOL!

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                  • 08 Aug 2021

                  Anonymous, 08 Aug 2021Really is that why Xperia, Galaxy S21, iPhone 12 series thr... moreThrottling is one thing and good cooling is another thing.
                  Chinese phone run uncomfortably hot.
                  iPhone runs the coolest. Samsung second.
                  You just push the limit to high temp not to let the phone throttle. Nothing with good cooling with these regular phones.

                  Even with throttling The A14 beats any SoC on the market.

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                    • Anonymous
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                    • 08 Aug 2021

                    Anonymous, 08 Aug 2021Come on. An SoC that has a higher score is more powerful. I... moreSure it's powerful.... You are right... But only on paper.

                    Pair it with weaker cooling and you'll never see that SOC hit its full potential or operate at full power

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                      • Anonymous
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                      • 08 Aug 2021

                      P C M, 08 Aug 2021Haha ! Another joker here... Phones don't have fan... moreReally is that why Xperia, Galaxy S21, iPhone 12 series throttle badly in heavy games like Genshin Impact yet they run smoothly giving higher performance on all other flagships??
                      Even Snapdragon 865 based devices like Mi 10t pro easily giving way better score.. Now Snapdragon 888 is easily faster than Snapdragon 888 on paper, but in real world, the weak cooling solution employed decided the fate for the S21 Ultra and IPhone 12 pro Max

                        Anonymous, 08 Aug 2021Come on. An SoC that has a higher score is more powerful. I... moreWell A14 then is much more powerful

                          AnonD-762416, 08 Aug 2021Read what I wrote if you don't understand what I'... more"It made it cheaper for them to make a competitor's product, sell it to that competitor, and then buy it back."

                          Oh well you're right

                            Anonymous, 08 Aug 2021You're a lost cause. Don't you understand simple ... moreExcuse me, now I understood the stupidity you wrote, I thought that all the people who were here knew a minimum, how has higher speed is better CPU? Your logic is easily discarded, since the exynos GPU has higher speed and is worse, the power is not based only on speed, but D1200 was better than 888, since it has higher speed

                              This is actually kind of funny! Google has for the most part boogered up their hardware from day one. Now their bragging claims for an "in house" SOC may just be an Exynos? Talk to the people who have had the Exynos SOC's installed on their Samsung S series phones for just how "good" these chips really are. LOL

                                I believe the tensor chip just isn't a rebranded exynos chip. The reason why many said that thus is an exynos chip is because it is manufactured by Samsung and it is using the same arm cpu cores and gpu core layouts of the 2100. I personally believe that google actually used the same cpu and gpu layouts with 2100 and then they custom designed and added their custom Twbsir Processing Unit, security chip and neural engine.

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                                  • 08 Aug 2021

                                  Anonymous, 08 Aug 2021The cpu cannot be judged by benchmarks alone. In real wo... moreHaha !
                                  Another joker here...
                                  Phones don't have fancy cooling like laptops. All phones have metal cooling chamber which at best costs 20 cents.

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                                    • 08 Aug 2021

                                    OhNom, 08 Aug 2021They have the ability to do it, they did not do it because ... moreRead what I wrote if you don't understand what I'm talking about. It's super easy to understand.

                                    Qualcomm is patent trllling the US market. Samsung stopped selling their own things because the patent trllling made it cheaper for them to manufacture a competitor's product, sell it to that competitor and then buy it back. So, this middle finger to Qualcomm is so f cking beautiful.

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                                      • Anonymous
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                                      • 08 Aug 2021

                                      Anonymous, 08 Aug 2021The cpu cannot be judged by benchmarks alone. In real wo... moreCome on. An SoC that has a higher score is more powerful. It's that simple. Don't be delusional.

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                                        • Anonymous
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                                        • 08 Aug 2021

                                        So, 08 Aug 2021It is bigger? some smartphones are on 7nm...i know that M1 ... moreDo you think that every single 5 nm SoC has the same physical size?