Samsung unveils flagship 200MP ISOCELL HP1, 50MP ISOCELL GN5 sensors

02 September 2021
The HP1 will likely be the imager of choice for the Galaxy S22 Ultra.

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haha bobo, 02 Sep 2021...annnnnnnd all of that will be destroyed by poor processi... morePathetic self-upvoting, get a life ffs.

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What's really nice is that some Samsung sensors can allegedly capture two images simultaneously, but with a different Iso gain. It would be extremely useful, if there was such an option when shooting in raw.

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Mobilemaster, 02 Sep 2021You may be right, but there was a person or 2 here who said... moreOh it was that Sony fanboy. He will repeat the same thing. Nothing can sway his opinion, even when facts are shown to be contrary to what he believes.

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haha bobo, 02 Sep 2021...annnnnnnd all of that will be destroyed by poor processi... moreDid you just log in from 7 different IP addresses to upvote yourself?

What's wrong with 12 MP? A7S III is a DSLR released in 2020 and it has 12 MP.

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According to Samsung, the 200 megapixel mode uses machine learning in order to achieve more detail. I really don't like machine learning super resolution modes as it makes photos useless: You can't easily identify which details are not true (whereas conventional artifacts like moiré are easy to identify).

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Fanboy of All brands, 02 Sep 2021Yup GN5 is basically an IMX 766 with ISOCELL Tech and Dual ... moreno its not its not even the same size

Anonymous, 02 Sep 2021This is (most likely) a 1/1.2" sensor. The GN1 has ... moreThis is a 1/1.22" sensor. It's mentioned in Samsung's website: https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/isocell/mobile-image-sensors/isocell-hp1/

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Anonymous, 02 Sep 2021How about the sensor sizes? HP1: 82,5mm²
GN5: 50.1mm²

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Nick Tegrataker, 02 Sep 2021What's the point of having 200 million pixels when you... morei would say just wait and see until the product release.
Back then many people saying same things with 108mp,
whats the point 108mp sensor if it only intend for producing 12mp ?

from 108mp sensor, we can see it have some advantage in some situations over 12mp, so i guess that the same reason with 200mp.

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How about the sensor sizes?

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I've got a GN2 in my phone and love it. The night shots are especially impressive - they can look almost like daytime. Not sure how the higher mp and lower pixel size will impact noise though. I'd like to see less processing required to touch up photos afterwards not more.

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Rkm, 02 Sep 2021Oh, an ND filter would be so useful right now. Not only for... moreNDF takes huge space.

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YUKI93, 02 Sep 2021Come to think about it, Sony are still yet to make a smartp... more50A used by P50 series is counterpart of 766.

YUKI93, 02 Sep 2021That is correct. Glass lenses should be mandatory for premi... moreOh, an ND filter would be so useful right now. Not only for long exposure, but also for smoother slower shutter speed videos in bright sunlight.
The lenses just got brighter and brighter and people just forgot about the other side of wide open lenses.

Aierlan, 02 Sep 2021Hope the shutter speed is better with these over the previo... moreCome to think about it, Sony are still yet to make a smartphone camera sensor that can rival Samsung's GN1/GN2 sensor and OmniVision's OV48C/OV50A/OV64A sensor.

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Anonymous, 02 Sep 2021I guess that the 200 megapixel mode could improve digital z... more(Pixel size in micrometers)

...annnnnnnd all of that will be destroyed by poor processing.

just give us 4-in-1, no questions asked, instead of the useless 16-in-1 bs, they keep on sticking to 12MP. what is this? 2015?

it's time for them to actually make a high resolution outputting sensors, not useless binning techniques.

Anonymous, 02 Sep 2021To continue: I prefer an smaller size sensor with lower res... moreMe too. Higher Megapixel requires more processing power, especially for modern Quad/Nona Bayer sensors since it needs a lot of computing power to do the pixel binning in the first place.

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Nick Tegrataker, 02 Sep 2021What's the point of having 200 million pixels when you... moreI guess that the 200 megapixel mode could improve digital zoom a bit in comparison with a 50 megapixel Quad Bayer sensor. Maybe it is also better for combining different exposures.
Regarding diffraction and Bayer sensors the theoretical resolution limit for a super sharp lens is achieved when f-number/pixel-size has values between approximately 5 and 10 as far as I know. For Quad Bayer sensors, etc you need even higher values in order to achieve the resolution limit. So diffraction is not necessarily an issue.

TheLastOracle, 02 Sep 2021My bad. I checked, and it it does have Staggered HDR on not... moreGN2 is also equipped with Dual Pixel Pro AF so the focusing speed should be just as fast as on GN5. I guess the more advanced DTI tech of GN5 allows it to capture light more efficiently compared to GN2, but I don't think it will be enough to overcome the massive difference in sheer sensor size and capture a comparable amount of light (let alone more light per exposure). Samsung's naming scheme for their Isocell sensors is quite messy (e.g. HM series), so just because 5 is a larger number than 2, it doesn't necessarily mean GN5 is a better product - I would say it's quite the opposite in this case.