Epic Games v. Apple ruling: iPhone-maker wins the antitrust lawsuit, but it must allow use of alternative in-app payment methods

11 September 2021
Both companies were engaged in a legal battle since last August.

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Alex, 12 Sep 2021Yes, I know. You don't understand me. In the article i... moreLOL. How can it include PC revenue? The judge will be sued if that is the case.

    Anonymous, 11 Sep 2021Worst company on the planet. When the founder is caught op... morehmmm... and what is that quote?

      Anonymous, 11 Sep 2021This is why developers prefer Android unless they want to p... moreIf developers prefer android this lawsuit would not happen.

        AnonD-731363, 11 Sep 2021I cant wait a day someone will declare apple as harmfull co... moreIf the judge was heavily bribed, then why would the judge rule to allow other payment methods?

        Now I feel like you guys are being paid by android to deliver cr*p onto this site.

          Anonymous, 12 Sep 2021You don't even understand what monopoly means. It mean... moreYou are unbelievable.

          Is the App Store a developers only option? Has Epic’s removal from said App Store rendered them unable to deliver games through through any means and send them out of business?

          No, why???…..BECAUSE ITS NOT A GODDAM MONOPOLY!!!!!

          The App Store is not Epic’s only avenue for doing business. It’s the only way to get apps on a device running iOS sure, but does as iOS does not encompass the entirety of the App sales business, it is therefore not, and hopefully for the final time, a monopoly!

          At the end of the day, it’s the US Court system and you that have have a difference of opinion on the definition of Monopoly, especially in this case. You don’t like it, take it up with them!

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            Anonymous, 12 Sep 2021They make most of their money from pc gaming, lol. iOS was ... moreYes, I know. You don't understand me. In the article it says that they also need to pay 30% of ANY revenue from November 1, 2020, until the date of judgement, that is now. Does this include PC revenue? If it does, that's a bit too much

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              DaFink, 12 Sep 2021Speak for yourself, as it seems your the one with the under... moreYou don't even understand what monopoly means. It means exclusive control of a product or service. When the App Store is the only service that you can use to get apps, it's monopoly.

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                Whoever thinks that apple can do whatever they want in their platform iOS as they please is either stupid or an apple shareholder or an employee. You pay a hefty amount upfront not only for the device, but also for the operating system. There should be a freedom to install whatever application the user wants, whatever the payment system user wants and whatever repair method user wants to do. It is like buying a car. of course if you buy a car you can pump gasoline from any of the manufacturers. You can use the car branded oil or some generic oil to service your car. You should not be forced to use only the branded items for everything. It is anticompetitive.
                This company is trying to squeeze their customers pockets dry. It is the greediest corporation ever.

                  Anonymous, 12 Sep 2021Did you read the conversation? It's about monopoly. If... moreSpeak for yourself, as it seems your the one with the understanding deficiency.

                  There is no monopoly, Apple enforcing rules, based around agreed to T&C’s regarding the use of their own IP and infrastructure, both things that are used by choice on the part of consumers and developers, does not constitute a monopolistic practice. The one concession to that being around in app payment systems.

                  The judge being labelled as ‘ignorant’ just suggests that the person making that statement simply didn’t like the verdict delivered. Well boohoo for them.

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                    DaFink, 12 Sep 2021How the heck is it besides the point??? Epic entered in... moreDid you read the conversation? It's about monopoly. If you want chime in, at least try to understand what people are talking about.

                      Anonymous, 12 Sep 2021That's beside the point. The point is that it's m... moreHow the heck is it besides the point???

                      Epic entered into an agreement with Apple to use the App Store. They did so of their own volition and being fully aware of the exiting T&C’s!

                      Had Epic embarked on the so called (yet obviously BS) moralistic campaign from the outset, then I might have had a certain understanding for their position.

                      But no, they used Apple services and infrastructure for years to line their pockets. Then once their coffers had been sufficiently filled, they decided they wanted rules that they had long agreed to changed.

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                        Alex, 12 Sep 2021What I don't understand why does Epic have to pay Appl... moreThey make most of their money from pc gaming, lol. iOS was never that important to them. They just don't like the Appstore/Playstore monopoly.

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                          Anonymous, 12 Sep 2021Then don’t develop for iPhone. Instead Epic is begging App... moreIt's not begging. Apple delisted them by applying Appstore rules which were anti-competitive and unlawful. I don't know why the Judge didn't reinstate their app in the Appstore having found that it's unlawful for Apple not to allow an alternative method of payment for in-app purchases.

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                            DaFink, 12 Sep 2021But they don’t force you to use their ecosystem at all. If ... moreThat's beside the point. The point is that it's monopoly if the App Store is the only way to get apps. This judge is so ignorant.

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                              Daany, 11 Sep 2021The judge is terribly high on something... The summary of t... moreWhat I don't understand why does Epic have to pay Apple "30% of any revenue it collected from November 1, 2020 through the date of judgment". That is a huge amount of money not earned on the app store. And if it is to pay Apple the money they could've made if Fortnite stayed on the app store then it is plain stupid

                                Anonymous, 12 Sep 2021This isn't about the consumer. It's about the rel... moreAs opposed to all the other tech giants that you know, somehow get by without any customers or business partners?!?!?

                                Seriously 🤦‍♂️

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                                  Anonymous, 12 Sep 2021This isn't about the consumer. It's about the rel... moreThen don’t develop for iPhone. Instead Epic is begging Apple to let them back into the app store.

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                                    Anonymous, 12 Sep 2021This isn't about the consumer. It's about the rel... moreIf you ever grow up, own a property to rent out and your occupant doesn't want to pay you jack while insisting he/she still wants to live there, then you'll know what nonsense Apple is dealing with Epic.

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                                      Simple and happy, 12 Sep 2021Buy iphone = follow Apple rules. Disagree with the rules... moreThis isn't about the consumer. It's about the relationship between Apple and developers. Apple is nothing without either customers or developers.

                                        Anonymous, 12 Sep 2021You and the judge don't get it. It's monopoly of ... moreBut they don’t force you to use their ecosystem at all. If you don’t like Apple’s rules as either a consumer or business partner. Then simply don’t buy their products or do business with them. Nobody from Apple is going to come along and force you to do so.

                                        Epic was happy to do business with Apple for years, happy enough to appear on stage at Apple events to promote new software and boast about revenue they’d made through the App Store.

                                        Then Epic decided they weren’t happy anymore, and what’s worst they tried to palm their new stance off as some kind of noble crusade on the behalf of the little guys…….

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