Apple iPhone 13 and 13 mini official: smaller notch and new main cameras

14 September 2021
Apple's non-Pro models are closer to their siblings then ever.

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Shiny Dave, 15 Sep 2021The one really big advantage Apple absolutely have: SoC per... moreThe OS is lightweight which contributed to better battery life.
Huawei did the same with their harmony OS, when they degoogled, the battery gains were tremendous.

It had nothing to do with the A14/A15 chip.
You won't see any improvements in battery life on Android, if the SOC inside was switched to Apple's Ax series.

pangolinpanda, 15 Sep 2021IMO It's also a shame they went with that soc decision... moreAgreed, something like the SD860 would have sufficed.

pufanu, 15 Sep 2021It is a good size, no doubt. I would have personally had go... moreIMO It's also a shame they went with that soc decision in Zenfone 8. They should have used something a bit lower end that provides better battery life, thermals and lower cost.

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nickname optional, 15 Sep 2021I am talking about Improvements over the last generation. I... moreEvery comment from users, including anons are breaking the GSMArena rules

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I have the Note 20 Ultra and I can say youre not missing out on anything if you dont have the gimmick promotion display. Its cool for a week and then you totally forget it exists.

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Anonymous, 15 Sep 2021Of course it does matter, you very good person. People who ... moreTiny percentage of the population is interested in small phones

Anonymous, 15 Sep 2021Zenfone 8 is perfect size It is a good size, no doubt. I would have personally had gotten one if Asus didn't skimp out on wireless charging.

But that is besides the point. The subject of the discussion was Android phones the same size as an iPhone Mini, and you, for some reason, are acting like the Zenfone 8 is somehow relevant. It isn't

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Anonymous, 15 Sep 2021Zenfone 8 is perfect size May be for you, not for us

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pufanu, 15 Sep 2021Uhm, what? Comparing the Iphone Mini to the Zenfone 8 size-... moreZenfone 8 is perfect size

AnonF-1013367, 14 Sep 2021Galaxy z flip,, also has better battery life with 120hz screenI don't think that's the best of comparisons. It has the same battery life as the iPhone 12 Mini (according to gsmarena reviews), and yes, at 120Hz on a larger screen but with an extra 1000 mAh. And the size difference is somewhat subjective, due to it's foldable nature. It's much shorter when folded but wider and double as thick.

pangolinpanda, 15 Sep 2021Xperia 5/10 I/II/III also, though they're a little bit... moreThese are all much larger than the iPhone Mini. Realistically speaking, how well would you expect an Android phone with a 2227 mAh battery and a top SoC to do? Because that's what the 12 Mini has to work with. Say they even managed to cram a ~2500 mAh cell in a phone that small, battery life would still be atrocious. Android doesn't have that software-hardware sinergy that iPhones do. It's much easier for Apple to design iOS around a singular set of hardware than it is for Google to keep it as tight. Maybe the Pixel 6 will be a step in the right direction, who knows.

Shiny Dave, 15 Sep 2021The one really big advantage Apple absolutely have: SoC per... moreThat and the fact that it's easier to design and optimize your software for one specific phone, instead of having to accommodate for a wide variety of hardware configurations. That's why I don't think a flagship level Android phone the size of the iPhone Mini would have decent battery life. Also, people keep bringing up the Zenfone 8 for some reason. While relatively compact for a current Android phone, it's considerably larger than the iPhone Mini.

Anonymous, 15 Sep 2021Zenfone 8 would like to say Hi!!! Uhm, what? Comparing the Iphone Mini to the Zenfone 8 size-wise is like comparing the Zenfone 8 to the S21 Ultra. The Iphone is much, much smaller.

Archie, 15 Sep 2021*Zenfone 8 enters the conversation*Xperia 5/10 I/II/III also, though they're a little bit on the tall side.

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pufanu, 14 Sep 2021There's no way that an Android phone that small would ... moreZenfone 8 would like to say Hi!!!

[deleted post]I am talking about Improvements over the last generation. It doesn't mean that it's worth to upgrade from just 12 months old models.

They improved the shortcomings that the two basic iPhone 12 (mini) models had. They now have a longer lasting battery, double the base storage, brighter screens, better camera sensors + IBIS stabilizer and 50% more RAM. The basic iPhone 13 (mini) got most features that the last years iPhone 12 Pro Max had, at a lower price.

Please keep your immature name calling ("iboy" etc.) out of the comment sections. This is against the GSMarena rules and also very childish. You don't even know what device i am using.

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Dzej, 15 Sep 2021There is ASUS Zenfone 8. It's the size of 13, not 13 m... moreOf course it does matter, you very good person. People who buy compact phones look for size obviously

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Anonymous, 14 Sep 2021I wish Android had something as small and powerful as the i... more*Zenfone 8 enters the conversation*

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pufanu, 14 Sep 2021There's no way that an Android phone that small would ... moreThe one really big advantage Apple absolutely have: SoC performance per Watt. Apple use far smaller batteries than most Android makers, and yet battery life is... Certainly not as far behind as the capacity implies.

I really wish they'd go properly big in battery once though just to see what they could do with an Android-like capacity. Potentially they'd have a massive and very easily sold USP.

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Anonymous, 14 Sep 2021I wish Android had something as small and powerful as the i... moreAsus Zenfone 8 is the closest you can get