Xiaomi Redmi K50 Pro+ to feature a periscope zoom and 108MP cameras
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- 12 Oct 2021
OhNom, 11 Oct 2021"Aren't things like reaction time, accuracy, and ... moreFor precision, I mean the one at which they can move, the alignment, not the final render.
Thanks for the answer!
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- 12 Oct 2021
RealLifePhones, 11 Oct 2021I agree I use the tele for macros but people want close dis... moreTrue, though we could still get a Telephoto with a super close focus mode if it is a periscope.
But it would require continuously variable focal length (Zoom) that for some reasons they all refuse to do even though it is by far the most logical thing to do...
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- 11 Oct 2021
AnonD-909757, 11 Oct 2021Only because the 2MP/5Mp resolutions are stupid low and dra... moreI agree I use the tele for macros but people want close distance focus so basically UW with AF ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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- 11 Oct 2021
AnonD-909757, 11 Oct 2021Maybe, I don't know.
What I do know is that, based on... more"Aren't things like reaction time, accuracy, and other factors also important?"
If in reality, for example, the number of times the stabilization is updated per second is very important, if it makes a movement and the stabilizer takes time to correct it, it will be counterproductive, it will have the original movement and the one originated by IOS, I have no idea from other brands, but the Pixel 3's OIS updates to 200Hz
The precision is based on the axes, there is a decent difference in the precision in which they do it, a 2 axis OIS works as a square, a 3 axis works as a hexagon so it can stabilize diagonal movements better than the one of 2 axis could not, I think it also improves the speed, for a 2 axis to "stop" a diagonal movement it must move horizontally and vertically, one of 3 just moves and voila
I also assume that the strength of the magnet is a point and the number of lenses and size of the sensor, but beyond that I do not know if something influences
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- 11 Oct 2021
I hope they don't put a periscope/telephoto zoom on the base K50 but instead put the 108MP camera from the Mi 11 and maybe 2x lossless zoom.
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- 11 Oct 2021
OhNom, 10 Oct 2021If there are actually better OIS than others depends on the... moreMaybe, I don't know.
What I do know is that, based on how better it is, I would have paid extra my Poco F2 Pro for having an OIS.
Isn't stuff like reaction time, precision and other also important factors? Or they are not really relevant to OIS quality?
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- 11 Oct 2021
RealLifePhones, 10 Oct 20215MP was way better yes but it still sucked especially compa... moreOnly because the 2MP/5Mp resolutions are stupid low and dramatically limit the output quality.
But in terms of Macro, it is the stupidest thing ever to use an Ultra-Wide for taking them.
If there is a sensor you'd want to take Macro with, it is the Telephoto, NOT the Ultra-Wide.
And if you want the technical answer as to why, I've basically already wrote it a lot of times :
https://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-45847p2.php#2159642
https://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-46855.php#2203029
Using a Periscope Telephoto with a good set of lenses to allow for a deep focus range and depth of field control would allow having the Telephoto to also do both Macro and Portrait, and I mean real portrait, not the fake Bokeh one.
If there was 12Mp+ dedicated Macro camera on smartphones, the Ultra-Wide's Macro would look like a toy in comparison.
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- 11 Oct 2021
Anonymous, 10 Oct 2021I think for smartphone it would be harder to achieve a good... moreI don't know, I just do know that good phones with OIS always give much better results than EIS.
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- 11 Oct 2021
Anonymous, 10 Oct 2021Samsung is pioneering foldables and doing a very good job. ... moreExcept that even here they do things the wrong way.
Why the heck would you need the display to fold along the device?
A device like the Microsoft Surface Duo/Duo 2 but with any of the multiple possible techs to allow both display to meet in the center (a third display and them being flush against each other being the two best solutions) would solve basically all issues.
Many simply don't want foldable phones, regardless how reliable they are and crease or not.
So as usual, Samsung mobile division is taking all the wrong choices they can think of.
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- 10 Oct 2021
I want 200mp and 16k video.
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- 10 Oct 2021
AnonD-1016461, 10 Oct 2021No it's not that experience it's like display Be... moreYou are right, I already responded in another comment
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- 10 Oct 2021
AnonD-909757, 10 Oct 2021I don't think it is.
I mean, maybe there are better O... moreIf there are actually better OIS than others depends on their number of axes and their number of Hz to stabilize
But I know there are cheap phones with OIS, I just meant that it increases the amount of phone price decently, for example I don't think it is very far from the real thing, but I don't know the exact price of OIS, Galaxy M22 without OIS could have cost $ 210, Redmi 10X Pro 5G $ 270, and so on, but it's good to see it's hitting the mid-range and it was time for it to do so
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r33fd, 09 Oct 2021I have the K20 pro and the telephoto is useless in most cas... moreany telephoto is better than a macro though and that is my point
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AnonD-909757, 09 Oct 2021The 5Mp TeleMacro of the Poco F2 Pro/K30 Pro was a big impr... more5MP was way better yes but it still sucked especially compared to giving AF to the ultrawide
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- 10 Oct 2021
OhNom, 10 Oct 2021Actually OIS is quite expensive, but it would be nice if th... moreNo it's not that experience it's like display
Better quality higher price
I think OIS on S21 ultra is pricier than the one on A52 series
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- 10 Oct 2021
AnonD-909757, 09 Oct 2021Yes, and no, because OIS still give advantages on video, my... moreI think for smartphone it would be harder to achieve a good stabilization with OIS, that's why EIS seems to be the way to go. Aren't they going the way of sensor shift now?
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- 10 Oct 2021
And a punch hole. No thanks.
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AnonD-909757, 10 Oct 2021Samsung's smartphones are disappointing for a lot of t... moreSamsung is pioneering foldables and doing a very good job. I don't think they're going to be spending a lot of effort on slab phones from now on. They're going all in on the foldable craze. The Galaxy series is already an afterthought. So if you want the best from Samsung, you'll have to get yourself a Samsung foldable.