Xiaomi Redmi K50 Pro+ to feature a periscope zoom and 108MP cameras
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Anonymous, 10 Oct 2021Yes, and i suspect Samsung doesn't use EIS in regular ... moreSamsung's smartphones are disappointing for a lot of things, well the smartphone market in its entirety is nowadays, but Samsung for a company that big is even more so.
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OhNom, 10 Oct 2021Actually OIS is quite expensive, but it would be nice if th... moreI don't think it is.
I mean, maybe there are better OIS than others, that, I honestly don't know, but there are for sure really cheap phones with OIS.
The Galaxy A52 (sub 400€) is a good example of a middle-range who have one, same for the OnePlus Nord 2 (also sub 400€), or Vivo V21 (almost 300€), but you can go much lower, the Balckview A80 Plus and A90, the Doogee S59 & S59 Pro.
And without going full "weird" brands, the Redmi 10X Pro 5G at 300€, the Mi 10 Young 5G at 270€, the Galaxy M22 at 240€ and the Galaxy A22 at 200€ are good example of cheap phones that has it.
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- 10 Oct 2021
AnonD-1016461, 09 Oct 2021OIS? I think Xiaomi is afraid of OIS while Samsung gonna u... moreHow do you know that Xiaomi are not gonna use ois also?! If Samsung will have it in all A series, which I doubt, why not Xiaomi? They always have been very competitive in specs provided
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AnonD-1016461, 09 Oct 2021OIS? I think Xiaomi is afraid of OIS while Samsung gonna u... moreActually OIS is quite expensive, but it would be nice if they included it
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- 10 Oct 2021
How about k50pro+max ultra 5g
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- 10 Oct 2021
It's great that they keep pushing the envelope with the cameras on flagship phones, because it will eventually trickle down to more budget models. However, I won't spend laptop money on a phone. Especially when even though some phones have the hardware to perform like a small computer, they are so locked up that you can't install a full fledged system on them. Any SD 800 or probably even a high 700 would put the Rockchip in the PineBook Pro or RPi's CPU to shame, and yet these make for usable devices. You can daily drive a Linux RPi, especially true with the 8GB models. The Pinebook Pro was a bordeline daily driver laptop (chip shortage killed it).
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- 10 Oct 2021
AnonD-909757, 09 Oct 2021Yes, and no, because OIS still give advantages on video, my... moreYes, and i suspect Samsung doesn't use EIS in regular mode (Only "super steady" which is useless)
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- 09 Oct 2021
RealLifePhones, 09 Oct 2021Hopefully this marks the end of the 2MP macro bs we've... moreThe 5Mp TeleMacro of the Poco F2 Pro/K30 Pro was a big improvement over the 2Mp Macro or regular 5Mp Macro.
But it was back then, now we should have had 12Mp Telephoto + 7+Mp TeleMacro, and no darn dedicated 2Mp depth camera as the Ultra-Wide could literally do a much better job without requiring any additional stuffs to the phone.
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XY, 09 Oct 2021Even high mp count sensors shoot at 12MP or 16MP max
It&... moreSome can, the pixel binning have multiple modes and one is to actually use the rated resolution.
They re-arrange the sub pixels groups to basically get a regular RGB single Bayer filter equivalent :
https://www.androidauthority.com/what-is-pixel-binning-966179/
But yeah, they are more optimized for doing regular 48/(2x2) to 12Mp anyway, as you said.
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Kaja, 09 Oct 2021You are comparing iphone 12mpx vs heavily processed 12mpx o... moreI don't care, point still stand, there is NO VALID REASONS to get under 12Mp.
It only limits what you can do.
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- 09 Oct 2021
Still not a convincing upgrade for my K20 Pro Premium. Non interrupted screen is my main request. Otherwise it's a downgrade.
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RealLifePhones, 09 Oct 2021Hopefully this marks the end of the 2MP macro bs we've... moreI have the K20 pro and the telephoto is useless in most cases.
2x zoom is just too little to make a big difference VS the main sensor digital zoom.
They should put 3x zoom minimum.
As for the 13MP ultra wide of K20 pro it is very poor in anything but ideal light.
They need to put a nicer camera on the ultra wide, not main cam quality but still something without a ton of noise at least.
A decent setup would be Imx363 for ultra wide, imx766 for main and another Imx363 for 3x zoom.
Those are old sensors so they should be pretty cheap.
And add OIS on the main cam at least.
That would for a great mid-range camera with proper software.
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AnonD-909757, 09 Oct 2021Which DO prove that 8Mp is totally unnecessarily low.
It h... moreYou are comparing iphone 12mpx vs heavily processed 12mpx output from 108mpx Samsung camera. But in fullres, it has much more detail. Try to compare Mi10 pro 26mpx output from the same sensor. In daylight, details are much better than in case of all default 12mpx sensors.
Only problem is postprocessing, not data from sensor.
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- 09 Oct 2021
give us a new number....like
15x OPTICAL ZOOM
for first time
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AnonD-1016461, 09 Oct 2021OIS is for photography
OIS is for photography
EIS is for ... moreYes, and no, because OIS still give advantages on video, my first video camera was a Panasonic HDC-SD80 who has an amazing optical stabilization for the time that made the image incredibly still, it was really useful.
And the point is, OIS doesn't prevent to have EIS, having both working together will always be better.
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Abducted2005 , 09 Oct 2021Tell that to the 50mp gn2 sensor I'll put that up agai... moreWhich DO prove that 8Mp is totally unnecessarily low.
It has smaller pixels at 1.4µ than the 12Mp IMX557 main sensor of the Xperia 1 MK2 & MK3 and Xperia 5 Mk2 & Mk3 at 1.8µm.
The same way the latest Apple's iPhone main camera, who is the 12Mp Sony IMX703 isn't beated and actually hold up well and is comparable against S21 Ultra 108Mp Samsung S5KHM3, and this despite a 1.9µm for the IMX and 0.8µm for the Samsung.
Once again, resolution and/or pixel size, only give a marginal difference, within reasons of course as a IMX310 with his huge 5.91µm and 24Mp will blow all those smartphone sensors out of the water IF combined with a properly big lens, as if you put a lens as small as one find on a smartphone to it, it won't magically do much better.
So extreme resolution are NOT a big improvement, but too low-resolution IS a bottleneck.
Hence, my point, there is no valid reasons to get under 12Mp which is, for many reasons, a great minimum standard.
At least for photography, there are other stuffs that benefit from a low resolution as the quality isn't a concern, which is often the case with security camera that you'd rather optimize for low light.
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Anonymous, 09 Oct 2021Well actually on A72, although cameras are quite decent, th... moreOIS is for photography
OIS is for photography
EIS is for videography
EIS is for videography
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AnonD-909757, 09 Oct 2021MP aren't everything, sure, go say that to 2Mp sensors... moreEven high mp count sensors shoot at 12MP or 16MP max
It's goes like
48mp = 48÷4 = 12MP
64MP = 64/4 i.e 16MP
108Mp / tera pixel = 108/9 i.e 12MP
These sensor cannot actually shoot that rated pixels, if they do it's damn noisy, so OEMs in their high res mode just upscale the image in software .
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AnonD-1016461, 09 Oct 2021OIS? I think Xiaomi is afraid of OIS while Samsung gonna u... moreWell actually on A72, although cameras are quite decent, the weakest point is stabilization. Videos are quite jerky and much worse than Xiaomi's EIS. There is "super steady mode", but then video is quite blurry/lacking detail.