Samsung Galaxy Z Fold4 to skip S Pen slot

20 November 2021
That's hardly a surprise since its predecessor doesn't have one either.

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Anonymous, 20 Nov 2021It's literally just common sense. When Samsung rele... moreCrap argument.

You need a thinking cap. Your default thinking box is defective.

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I could paste that as a response for every reply you make because it is impossible to describe your thought process as logical.

Let me prove my point. TCL tried to undercut Samsung with a plastic Flip with a smaller outer screen, wider aspect ratio, a mid-range chipset, similar hinge, and several other downgrades; and the lowest MSRP they could tack on it was $800.

If Samsung had given the Flip 3 flagship camera, removed the crease, added 65W charging, 16GB RAM, and used 2nd gen under-display cameras so it was perfect; it would have cost $1199 to $1299. It would have been the perfect storm for TCL who will then release their cheaper Flip clone at a $400-500 discount and outsell the Flip 3.

Instead, Samsung made the Flip 3 imperfect but compelling enough at a $999 price ($200 higher than TCL's MSRP) and TCL had to cancel their launch after sending out review units. Checkmate!

Most of you moaning about compromises on Samsung's Foldables are just waiting for Samsung to perfect the form factor so prices of components fall and the Chinese can then produce cheap stuff (with compromises) that you can afford. Well, thankfully, you'll be waiting a long time; as you aren't Samsung's target market.

I have a Fold 3, and as much as I want upgrades, I fully understand why Samsung has to drip feed upgrades. Keep waiting for the cheap Chinese Foldable clone. And since you believe it's easier to make a cheaper clone today to undercut Samsung, I'll advice you send your resume to TCL, Xiaomi, Oppo and co that are struggling to do just that.

Now you can see why I didn't want to waste my valuable time debating you.

  • Anonymous

Scram, 20 Nov 2021Crap argument. You need a thinking cap. Your default thi... moreIt's literally just common sense.

When Samsung releases a perfect Fold, prices will be lower by that point. Right now prices are high. So, it's easier to undercut Samsung right now compared to later on. It won't be easy to undercut Samsung significantly because foldable costs a lot more to manufacture and much marketing is also needed along with IP certification which is a must.

Meanwhile, Samsung foldable is imperfect now so consumers won't mind just getting cheaper imperfect foldable from Xiaomi etc, whereas in the future when Samsung has a perfect foldable and competitors is still imperfect, consumers can easily justify paying a bit more for Samsung.

I'm sorry you don't have basic logic.

  • AnonD-1027450

Duck of death, 20 Nov 2021Yeah, if you prefer a thousand buck plastic-fantastic flims... moreWell you're just a Samsung fanboi
Samsung phones are never perfect same as other companies
Plus Samsung isn't a name in the flagship era
Still 90% of people who want to pay more than 700$ go for iphone
Fold and flip are just a concept-ish phones good for someone who wants a new technology but mostly avoided from average costumers
Basically I think Xiaomi can get the flip market from Samsung if they release a flip with SD778+ and under 500$
But I still want Samsung to make a real time fold/flip flagship but I think they're just enjoying winning a race where no any other cars arrived

AnonD-1027450, 20 Nov 2021TCL isn't a bad company but comparing it with BBK and ... moreYeah, if you prefer a thousand buck plastic-fantastic flimsy and creaky phone over the perfection Samsung made with the Flip3, I guess you're right. And insane. 不

  • Anonymous

Scram, 20 Nov 2021Crap argument. You need a thinking cap. Your default thi... moreYou're literally describing yourself

Anonymous, 20 Nov 2021What nonsense. What is stopping those companies from rel... moreCrap argument.

You need a thinking cap. Your default thinking box is defective.

AnonD-1027450, 20 Nov 2021Cuz when apple release a fold or flip Samsung gonna lose 50... moreI mean they won't be able to produce enough units even, if they were to release perfect one.
What they need the most is to be able to produce a way more of them and introduce mid-range.
From my point of view it's worth even less than that, as I'm enthusiastic photographer and the only satisfying brands are Sony and Vivo.

  • Anonymous

Why do people buy these kind of foldables where you'll be left crying if anything happens to your extremely vulnerable, costly and hard to repair (phablet). (tbh too much for a phone).

That's not understandable because Fold smartphones are already big! I think I will skip it again till they make it with S Pen slot.

Wait for the Fold with S-Pen slot and wider front display. If you have a 3, no reason to get the 4. These companies don't change it up every year. More like every 3 to 4 generations now.

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 20 Nov 2021Went would they put a pen in when they can't even fit ... moreHow can you even put a bigger battery when there is literally little space for it. They can't even make the body thick either.

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 20 Nov 2021Is Apple even working on a fold? Will the inner display hav... moreyes, it will feature a notch on both sides of the screen, for even better security!

  • Anonymous

Scram, 20 Nov 2021Au contraire! Samsung will be stup*d to improve the Fold... moreWhat nonsense.

What is stopping those companies from releasing a compromised foldable right now to undercut the Z Fold3 and Z Flip3 ??

In fact, releasing now would be better since price of Samsung foldables are still very high and they still have compromises so consumers will see Samsung foldables are much more expensive but still have compromises, so why not just buy the other foldables instead.

Releasing compromised foldables once Samsung has perfected theirs makes no sense, Samsung won't increase the price even if they put more features instead they will decrease it especially for Fold, so the price difference between Samsung foldables and others would be less now unless other companies want to just break even which would be a waste of their resources since developing any level of foldable is not easy, but this time Samsung's foldables will be perfect and much better than the competition, so consumers will think okay the price difference is not that high, but Samsung foldables are much better, it's worth it to get Samsung foldable.

  • Anonymous

Went would they put a pen in when they can't even fit a proper battery.....

  • 7hh

They will probably remove the stylus in the future for some bs reason like "our touchscreen interface has been improved vastly to be used without the stylus

  • AnonD-1027450

Duck of death, 20 Nov 2021Reality check: TCL was all done shipping devices all over t... moreTCL isn't a bad company but comparing it with BBK and Xiaomi is a bit wrong
I prefer to wait and see

  • Anonymous

AnonD-1027450, 20 Nov 2021No like tab S8 ultra that gives you eye soar anyway u use it不不不What were they thinking? It's hideous.

Scram, 20 Nov 2021Au contraire! Samsung will be stup*d to improve the Fold... moreReality check: TCL was all done shipping devices all over the world to compete with the Flip3, with a device they thought would destroy the price of the Flip 3. All plastic fantastic BOE trash through and through. Samsung launched the Flip3 at sub 1,000 bucks and TCL immediately cancelled the launch and recalled all the review units. Samsung is going all in, they are cramming things in there that are years ahead of what the competition can deliver and they're doing it at prices not even Chinese forced labour camps can compete with. That is what a decade of R&D gives you over a year of copypasta.

Considering that the current S Pen is way different than the previous EMR-type S Pen like in the Galaxy Note series, I'm still wondering if there is even a space to put one in the first place.

  • AnonD-1027450

Anonymous, 20 Nov 2021Is Apple even working on a fold? Will the inner display hav... moreNo like tab S8 ultra that gives you eye soar anyway u use it不不不