Snapdragon Sight: Qualcomm's new 18-bit ISP is made for the 108MP, 8K future
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- 06 Feb 2023
STE FAR 05, 20 Jan 2022Just notify me when they can do 8K @60fps. I hear the Exyno... moreright now there is no phone in the market that can take 8k@60fps right?only 30
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- 20 Jan 2022
Just notify me when they can do 8K @60fps. I hear the Exynos can decode at that spec but I'm not sure if it means record.
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- 03 Dec 2021
More tools and improved technology for the increase of modern women's narcissism and their t rash personalities.
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- 02 Dec 2021
OhNom, 01 Dec 2021Then? Do we stop developing improvements in the photographi... moreI think we are on a point in which, yes, we don't need more of that development, in fact all that is pure marketing, just like the Galaxy space zoom that nobody uses, they should invest even more on other areas like power saving
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- 01 Dec 2021
db102000, 01 Dec 2021Very idiotic all that, knowing that 99% of people see what ... moreThen? Do we stop developing improvements in the photographic section or what does it suggest?
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- Anonymous
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- 01 Dec 2021
jason, 01 Dec 2021its all well and good banding around these numbers, but the... moreThere are around 1 inch and 16mm sensor able to be used. They use special low noise high gain technique, so often what you get is pretty good.
The sensors aren't too small on the top end. But the issue is, that most of the functionality in locked up and doesn't challenge more expensive video cameras much. ProRes, conform, cineform raw, CDNG video in a container, 12 bits+, 4:2:2, 4:4:4, should all have been done years back, with USB 3.1+ and full manual video control with external configurable l buttons and manual (USB second port or Bluetooth NF, or wifi control interfaces). You notice that maybe none of these android phones gives a very good manual controllability in their video camera apps. The best I've seen looking through them at the shop, lacks a way to completely independently set the aperture/shutter/exposure, like you can on some cheap cameras, sort of like how many action camera have certain functionality locked off. We could argue that this has cost the community and content industry a trillion dollars over the years, and serves the interests of a handful of companies, but which ones are in the mobile space? Pretty soon their shakey card industry may fall in on itself. It's been waiting decades fora true competitors to wipe out the profit margin differences between pro and consumer and phone video camera equipment. Imagine a $500 phone that had all pro video options to use? Imagine $200 phones with pro video options. That's the reality we are not getting fur some reason. Camera phones often are simpletons on video mode. Ai video control is important for the normal user, but so is setting look etc via meta data etc the user can change afterwards, and allowing users to intervene on any and all options manually at any time. That's progress, not the opposite.
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- 01 Dec 2021
[deleted post]Lol, I guess it's why people keep iPhones for 5 and more years, because it's so "poor" in real world.
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- 01 Dec 2021
r3c, 01 Dec 2021240 fps 12mp ? For what should we use that ? Even Youtube d... moreImage stacking probably. Shooting a fast sports scene in the fraction of a second, while having the capability to combine still enough frames for HDR and AI stacking, 18bit output, seems to make sense. Or do you want the competition (apple, mediatek) to do it first?
An upgrade in the video department, like continuous 1000 fps FHD/4k would still be nice, fair enough.
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- 01 Dec 2021
Well the SD888 failed to impress hope this one will proves opposite.
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- 01 Dec 2021
So now OEMs will even more enjoy putting sub 12Mp Ultra-Wide and Telephoto and laugh hysterically while putting 5Mp and 2Mp sensors.
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- 01 Dec 2021
Very impressive features and functionality. It is easy to imagine these SoCs appearing in professional camera bodies instead of or in addition to the silicon of some of the pro and enthusiast camera manufacturers. Or if corporate cultures of the traditional companies is too insular or rigid. I can imagine new creative business arrangements that allow the industry to explore taking advantage of all this progress in a format such as a professional body ILC. In any case, Sony seems poised to best be able to make use of all this tech, being friendliest and wost accepting of it as part of their Experia efforts and integration with pro and enthusiast camera bodies to-date. Leica is right there, too.
I am excited to see how mobile phone manufacturers take advantage of this in 2022. Already the 2021 generation of premium smartphones focused on photography produce some amazing results.
Tech steamrolls forward as always! Exciting times for digital photography and videography.
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- 01 Dec 2021
240 fps 12mp ? For what should we use that ? Even Youtube does heavy compressing on 4k and 2k, so nobody will see the Resolultion.
Whats with 1000fps / 2000fps 720p/1080p, would be way more useful.
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- 01 Dec 2021
Anonymous, 01 Dec 2021📷🎥 already do 8K and they do not use mobile chips.
Peop... moreAgree with you on bitrates.
This SoC STILL can't even output 8k@60 fps, let alone in decent quality.
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- Anonymous
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- 01 Dec 2021
jason, 01 Dec 2021its all well and good banding around these numbers, but the... moreAverage images? Yet it's literally a photography benchmark for every new phone. Also don't get blinded by megapixels.
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- jason
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- 01 Dec 2021
its all well and good banding around these numbers, but there is no high quality cameraphone maker that can make any use of all these stats because the camera sensor is still small, and the amount of light that gets in through it is tiny by comparison to any other device, and thats before most companies employ aggressive processing algorithms to make their images pop and stand out, samsung and apple I am looking at both of you as i basically use only these 2 brands, of course apple doesnt use Snapdragon but it applies its own algorithms to ceate its own average 12mp images, bring on bigger sensors, bring on bigger optics, and bring on variable aperture once more
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- 01 Dec 2021
[deleted post]It's funny you say that when large majority of phones using Snapdragon chipsets don't even use Qualcomm's image processing logic (only phone I'm aware of that actually uses it is Qualcomm's own phone)... Meanwhile iPhones use all of the features of the A-Bionic series chipsets because they were designed to be used to process images and video and they fully use that. You people just throw around specs on paper without understanding any of it. I bet this new Snapdragon Sight ISP won't be any different...
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- 01 Dec 2021
It's all very impressive but it still depends on the smartphone camera's photo processing algorithm at the end of the day.
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- 01 Dec 2021
[deleted post]Yes apple is so Zad😞😛
I hope this year android can finally catch A14❤️
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- 01 Dec 2021
Pro Me, 01 Dec 2021Snapdragon Sight + Leica + Sony Alpha.. Next iteration of x... moreLike this year?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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- 01 Dec 2021
Where is the max mb/s dataeates in h264/h265/h266/hief? That's what matters. Without descent data your 4k and 8k, is going look rubbish, and you need to do it at 12 bits+?
Is there any ProRes etc?
Can you develop and down load new codecs?