Here's when the Sony Xperia Pro-I will be released

26 November 2021
The availability is closer than you may expect.

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Anonymous, 27 Nov 2021Best camera in the market? Best screen in the market? May b... moreYes indeed, sony lied about the xzs os upgrade.
I hope you learn the lesson that sony has bad customer support.

    Anonymous, 27 Nov 2021Feel free to scroll down until you find. https://m.weibo.... moreRight now I don't have time to keep scrolling on weibo all the way down to the part before Aquos R6 was announced, but at least I appreciate that you put up the link there. I'll try looking up on it when I have time.

    "Funny the snail photo where the narrower FOV is more evident you leave out of the chat"
    In case you didn't realise, every single scene but the snail one shows OP9P captures a wider field of view, not just the one I linked to in my previous image.. but I guess you're conveniently ignoring them too.

    "If it was Apple, Samsung, Asus or Motorola advertising it you would be saying it was scam"
    I wouldn't. I hold no hatred against any brands. When did I ever post comments hating on those manufacturers or accusing them for lying in the first place?

    "Vivo has same suppliers of the sisters"
    Source? And even if they had the same suppliers, that does not necessarily mean that they purchase exactly the same types of components from them.

    "Still curious to know why there is no 8mm if they can offer zero distortion"
    Because it's harder to correct such distortion even with more efficient correction method??? It's simple physics.
    Nobody claimed there's "zero" distortion, it drastically reduces distortion but won't completely eliminate them. For instance, OnePlus' claim is 1% distortion using free form lens design.

    "By the way, Huawei did not advertise distortion free for P50 Pro."
    P50 Pro's UWA sensor is only at 1/3 inch diagonal. Mate 40 Pro, OnePlus 9 Pro and Find X3 Pro all use 1/1.5 inch sensors. Distortion is easier to correct on a smaller sensor, and since the image quality from such a minuscule sensor wouldn't be that good in the first place, I bet Huawei couldn't be bothered to spend extra for better lens design.

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      • AnonD-834088
      • iLV
      • 27 Nov 2021

      £1600 GBP, NEH,you keep that 👍

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        • Anonymous
        • pQr
        • 27 Nov 2021

        And I also expect more from the software:
        a software shutter button, DRO levels and something like Nikon's Active D Lighting. A mode like Nikon's Active D Lighting is basically a high dynamic range tone mapping mode without image stacking and can also be used with manual exposure settings as far as I know. And it also lets you save raw files.

          Anonymous, 27 Nov 2021USA, UK, Spain, France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Ital... moreMost of the the counties you mentioned are in Europe. Yet I have never seen someone using a Sony smartphone in my country or in rest of Europe.
          The stats back me up as well. Sony's presence in the market is so low that their numbers are clubbed in the "other category" according to the latest shipment data in Europe.

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            • Anonymous
            • pQr
            • 27 Nov 2021

            The cameras would be more interesting with better hardware, for example:
            -23/24mm with 24 megapixels, 98mm² sensor + f/1.95 OIS lens, similar to Xiaomi 11 Ultra
            -50mm with 24 megapixels, 18mm² sensor + f/1.6 OIS lens, similar to Vivo X70 Pro Plus
            or alternatively an additional 23/24mm camera with 98mm² Bayer sensor + f/1.95 OIS lens, but with approximately 110 megapixels for lossless zoom
            -103mm with 24 megapixels, 31mm² sensor + f/3.5 OIS lens, similar to Google Pixel 6 Pro
            -250mm with approximately 15-19 megapixels, 12mm² sensor + f/4.4 OIS lens with effective diameter of 6.5mm, similar to Huawei Mate 40 Pro Plus
            -23/24mm low light camera with a resolution between 6-12 megapixels, either 72mm² sensor + f/1.57 OIS lens (similar to Vivo X70 Pro Plus) or again 98mm² + f/1.95 OIS lens
            -macro camera

              Anonymous, 27 Nov 2021You think it is just 750.000? LOL That was an example, the numbers are certainly way lower than other manufacturers.
              You do realize that Sony has less than 0.1% marketshare right??

                Shanti Dope, 27 Nov 2021It may not be a threat to any other camera manufacturer, bu... moreMaybe you need to actually start using a Sony phone afterall otherwise you won't be repeating claims made by Sony marketing team.
                You yourself have been stuck on budget Chinese phones as daily driver.

                youtu.be/uVmqQp5NO4A

                Your so called alpha image processing disappoints overall.
                Sony's software on smartphones is simply not there...

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                  • Anonymous
                  • LkB
                  • 27 Nov 2021

                  ABF Media, 27 Nov 2021Sony may have sold 25% more smartphones. But their actual n... moreYou think it is just 750.000? LOL

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                    • Anonymous
                    • LkB
                    • 27 Nov 2021

                    Nick Tegrataker, 27 Nov 2021Xperia 1 III UWA (16mm equivalent): https://fdn.gsmarena.c... moreFeel free to scroll down until you find. https://m.weibo.cn/u/1748136774?uid=1748136774&t=0&luicode=10000011&lfid=100103type%3D1%26q%3DZackbuks

                    Funny the snail photo where the narrower FOV is more evident you leave out of the chat.

                    If it was Apple, Samsung, Asus or Motorola advertising it you would be saying it was scam.
                    Vivo has same suppliers of the sisters.
                    Chinese lems makers also suppliers Apple and Samsung.

                    Still curious to know why there is no 8mm if they can offer zero distortion.
                    Simple trick, apply software correction and do not offer option to turn it off like other.

                    By the way, Huawei did not advertise distortion free for P50 Pro. What a coincidence.
                    Gonna say a chinese company is not allowed to sell to Huawei? LOL ....


                      AnonD-1014095, 27 Nov 2021Sony made £900million in profits in 1 yearOthers are making billions...

                        AnonD-1019084, 27 Nov 2021And you know this because?? Sony isn't fake like many ... moreSony may have sold 25% more smartphones. But their actual numbers are really low.
                        No one cares if Sony managed to sell 100k smartphones compared to 75k last year.
                        Other manufacturers are selling in millions. They are still nowhere close to being relevant.

                          SuuperBaka, 27 Nov 2021The first ppl to comment are the ones bashing the company, ... moreSo accurate!

                            Where to buy?

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                              • Anonymous
                              • LkB
                              • 27 Nov 2021

                              vrvly, 27 Nov 2021Nothing special besides main camera, and even that is old f... moreSony cameras have pixel shift. This has nothing to do with image stacking.
                              Each position sensor moves become 1/4 of the photo.

                                vrvly, 27 Nov 2021Nothing special besides main camera, and even that is old f... more"Nothing special besides main camera, and even that is old fashioned, no quad, unlike A7IV 240Mp( 60Mp without frame stacking)."

                                When did the A7IV have 240MP or 60MP?

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                                  • famakate
                                  • pAH
                                  • 27 Nov 2021

                                  Dani2018, 27 Nov 2021Who cares about Sony they will have few hundreds sales only Yes, and also who cares about ferrari. They sell only like few thousands cars per year.

                                    Anonymous, 27 Nov 2021"both of which completely lack any sort of manual cont... moreYou're definitely right, though by "manual" controls I was referring to a pro mode that contains all the manual settings, which both Pixel and iPhone lack entirely. But I guess my wording wasn't clear here, my apology.

                                      Anonymous, 27 Nov 2021Accept it is lie to fool costumers. Otherwise a 14mm would ... moreXperia 1 III UWA (16mm equivalent):
                                      https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/21/sony-xperia-1-iii/daylight/gsmarena_007.jpg
                                      https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/21/sony-xperia-1-iii/daylight/gsmarena_004.jpg
                                      https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/21/sony-xperia-1-iii/daylight/gsmarena_002.jpg
                                      https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/21/sony-xperia-1-iii/daylight/gsmarena_005.jpg

                                      OnePlus 9 Pro (14mm equivalent):
                                      https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/21/oneplus-9-pro/daylight/gsmarena_002.jpg
                                      https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/21/oneplus-9-pro/daylight/gsmarena_005.jpg
                                      https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/21/oneplus-9-pro/daylight/gsmarena_004.jpg
                                      https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/21/oneplus-9-pro/daylight/gsmarena_006.jpg

                                      OnePlus 9 Pro is capturing a wider field of view. Now you can finally admit your lie, shut up and tuck away your awful sinophobia disguised as a brand hatred. *You* never caught me for anything. It's simply that when *I* catch you hallucinating, you simply run away as soon as you realised that you are lacking evidence that supports your mere wishful thinking. Just like you did when the other anonymous user (gBV) and I were talking about how smartphone lenses could be very sharp because of all sorts of reasons but you called them "crap".

                                      "someone from China posted screen shot of those hardware info apps that show imx506"
                                      That's exactly what I wanted to see, bring it on, show me that screenshot. I'm always ready to admit that I've been wrong about something, as long as one can supply me with evidence (which you should've in the first place).

                                      "Have you seen Vivo advertise this?"
                                      No, Vivo's sensor + optic choices have been distinctly different from those of OnePlus and Oppo, when it comes to high-end phones. Samples show that Vivo's non-free-form UWA lens is considerably rougher on edges and shows more chromatic aberration.

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                                        • AnonD-844232
                                        • HKG
                                        • 27 Nov 2021

                                        Not many ppl will buy it. Youth like only iphone 🤷‍♂️