Motorola Frontier leaks with Samsung 200MP sensor

28 March 2022
This could be the first smartphone launched with Samsung's 200MP HP1 sensor.

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  • 03 Apr 2022

Would much rather see more companies use that 1" Sony sensor and innovate on that rather than try to stuff more pixels into overly binned sensors

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    • 02 Apr 2022

    SuuperBaka, 01 Apr 2022"12 Mpix is crap even for nowdays standarts." ... moreWell yes.
    People thinking is ridiculous because more megapixel always doesnt means better camera.
    But if apple will give 48 mpix we can assume even lowest of the low android with speedtrum CPU and Android go edition will starts at 50 mpix cameras.

      vrvly, 01 Apr 2022Depends on processing, vivo x line or most phones with AI h... moreThey aren't that good compared to the 12MP binned images which is the main purpose of the QB sensors. They would definitely have more noise, but processing is important, you're right about that.

        AnonD-731363, 31 Mar 2022Because they love dark age??? 12 Mpix is crap even for now... more"12 Mpix is crap even for nowdays standarts."

        It's not. It's the standard right now. Most users don't even need more than 12MP since they are using Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.

        "Old nokias had 41 Mpix and were way better than Apples of nowdays."

        Those Nokias you're talking about both have a regular Bayer sensor, not a QB sensor. That argument doesn't work here since this is all QB.

        "And if 12 Mpix is so best why 2022 Iphones wil come with 48 mpix???"

        Marketing. It's so obvious why anyone would bring 48MP cameras. If you can market a bigger camera number the average user will think more MP = Better Photo when that's not always the case.

          SuuperBaka, 30 Mar 2022Shooting Hi-res mode is actually pointless. More noise, mor... moreDepends on processing, vivo x line or most phones with AI hi res mode can do well. Color is similar and still way different than in raws, but again, depends on brand.

            sohail shafayat, 29 Mar 2022high res sensors sound good on paper but you will find plen... moreBecause most are 3x3 bayer or bad lens, bad processing... of course its worse.

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              • 31 Mar 2022

              Everythign on this phone looks perfect apart infinite screen grabbed from Samsung S8 and S8 edge which looks far more horrible than cow dung.

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                • 31 Mar 2022

                Norris, 28 Mar 2022200 mp ))) Same crap, like 108 mp. We all know, that optima... moreBecause they love dark age???
                12 Mpix is crap even for nowdays standarts.
                Old nokias had 41 Mpix and were way better than Apples of nowdays.
                And if 12 Mpix is so best why 2022 Iphones wil come with 48 mpix???

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                  • 31 Mar 2022

                  Satan, 29 Mar 2022Redmi Note 10 pro has the 5Mp camera you want + the overall... moreyepp, I know that model thnx.. and yea that model is very close to model I am searching..
                  and I might make u crazy with my answer but I want IP68 rating.. hehe..
                  = ))
                  Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra has everything except macro.. : (
                  https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_11_ultra-10737.php

                  I am curious if those cheap externally attached macro lenses do any good ?

                    A lot of MP in a camera does not mean good quality, just look at Pixel, it has not that big of a camera when it comes to hardware specifications, but the system AI makes it amazing.

                      vrvly, 29 Mar 2022Point of using hi res and multibayer is to get around pure ... moreShooting Hi-res mode is actually pointless. More noise, more moire, less colour accuracy. The reason the resolution exists is for binning.

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                        • 30 Mar 2022

                        Nick Tegrataker, 29 Mar 20221) Compared to a narrower angle lens, the wider angle lens ... moreYea exactly, I will most probably have to forget about the macro capability..
                        thnx a lot for the detailed explaining answer/comments... good dai..

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                          • 30 Mar 2022

                          sohail shafayat, 29 Mar 2022high res sensors sound good on paper but you will find plen... moreagreed... : /

                            vrvly, 29 Mar 2022Point of using hi res and multibayer is to get around pure ... morehigh res sensors sound good on paper but you will find plenty of image sample here on GSMA, please download some images both in 12 & 108 MP res and compare them and see which on looks better. I found Most 108MP images blurry, washed out, noisy, soft.

                              I just got done reading about the ISOCELL HM6. What will be the better sensor??

                                sohail shafayat, 29 Mar 2022Do you really think that the IMX766 can produce better imag... morePoint of using hi res and multibayer is to get around pure physical fight of pixel size, but a lot depends on processing and additional sensors. Though the colors tend to be better on low res sensors, difference in detail amount is a lot bigger, depends on how much is that important for you.
                                Even basic resolution aside, hi res mode can make way big difference, imagine you can capture so much detail as shooting 4 times using standard resolution. That's way different, it's basically impossible to go back after seeing that.

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                                  • 29 Mar 2022

                                  I Don't like Curved Display !!! Pls improve user interface 🤷

                                    It will launch with Android 12 when 13 is already out and God be with those to receive at most 2 OS updates..

                                      vrvly, 29 Mar 20222mp, 8mp, 12mp, 16mp, 20mp, 40mp, 50mp, 64mp, 108mp, 194mp,... moreDo you really think that the IMX766 can produce better images than the IMX703? IMX766 gains larger 2micron pixels when binned into 2x2 and the IMX703 has single 1.9µm, please let me know

                                        Anonymous, 29 Mar 2022And your proof?You still need a proof? How funny! Wait till the review comes