Kuo: TSMC will manufacture A16 Bionic chip on 5nm process for 2022 iPhone 14 series
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- Anonymous
- PWD
- 30 May 2022
Spanky, 30 May 20225nm is old technology. Qualcomm uses 4nm even in its mid-ra... moreLol 4nm is based on 5nm with minor changes
And 4nm SD8G1 overheats a lot with high power consumption
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- LoneOwl
- 3Aq
- 30 May 2022
The fact that apple stays in tsmc is not news(or rumor)worthy.
If apple changed manufacturer for their chips, that would indeed be news worthy.
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- Baddroid
- 7kp
- 30 May 2022
77, 30 May 2022Samsung foundries way better. On 4nm Exynos, blows slowdra... more😂😂😂🤣
- you have to suffer
- wrg
- 30 May 2022
Jongjave, 30 May 2022strange. Qualcomm, Mediatek already use N4 from TSMC. they steal alot from them.
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- 30 May 2022
Spanky, 30 May 20225nm is old technology. Qualcomm uses 4nm even in its mid-ra... moreApple believes in big die core over maggot 4nm vs 5nm, the more power the torque, the higher TDP at 12 Watts is brutal vs snapdragon exynos at 9Tdp. V8 engine vs v6, v8 5nm blows the maggot v6.
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- 30 May 2022
TSMC does have 4nm and 3nm nodes. If Apple is not using them, it means that TSMC does not have the capacity to fulfil the orders (Million per Week). Hence, why they're sticking to the 5nm process.
The Apple A16 has been in-development for a couple years now. It is a new architecture, and doesn't use the same base as the A13 which was used for the M1 and refined in the A14/A15. The new A16 has been rumoured to be a notable upgrade in terms of performance and efficiency.
There's very little upgrade from the +5nm to the 4nm node. And I'm not sure the 3nm offers much upgrade. However, I do think there will be a very good upgrade on the Apple A16 simply through the architectural changes (remember A57 vs A73). And things would scale up more exponentially on the larger Apple M2 chipsets. So I don't really have any worries from the efficiency and performance perspective.
....what I'm actually curious about is how Apple responds in terms of graphics.
There is the new QC 8g1 (and Plus) from the 7W phone side, and then from the 14W laptop direction the AMD r7-6800u both competitors offer strong graphics options this year. Compared to last year's A15 phone, A15 tablet, M1 tablet, and M1 laptop options.
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- Spanky
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- 30 May 2022
5nm is old technology. Qualcomm uses 4nm even in its mid-range chips which are already available today!
How typical… 🙄
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- Anonymous
- 3SI
- 30 May 2022
Jongjave, 30 May 2022strange. Qualcomm, Mediatek already use N4 from TSMC. Apple uses N5P which is better than N4
https://mobile.twitter.com/mingchikuo/status/1530849357154914304/photo/1
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- Anonymous
- 3SI
- 30 May 2022
If they have the same manufacturing anyway, then I don‘t get why the iPhone 14 should not get the A16.
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- DMX
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- 30 May 2022
I hope that google also mounts its soc with TMSC, and leaves samsung aside this year, it is not that tensor 1 is bad, but if the weather is already being noticed, especially in games, it is heating up for summer I will put like my electric oven
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- DMX
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- 30 May 2022
If something works well why change it, besides most iphone users don't even know about it, as long as the phone remains fluid
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- SShock
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- 30 May 2022
I'm suspecting A16 Bionic will have dedicated super low power logic for AOD function, which would correlate with higher tier displays on higher end models. This way it will be able to drive AOD with 1Hz on the display just like on Apple Watches and run Bionic chipset in partial low power mode just to drive AOD and nothing else.
Though I'm not a huge fan of this segmentation now. What made iPhones so great was the fact ALL of them from same year had basically identical chipsets.
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- Anonymous
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- 30 May 2022
Looks like TSMC didn't have enough N4 wafers for Apple.
So far only Qualcomm, MediaTek and Nvidia are the only ones using N4.