TSMC's 3nm chips are coming in 2023, 2nm in 2025
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- 17 Jun 2022
GS88, 17 Jun 2022Insane. The Snapdragon S1 from ~ 2008 was produced on 65nm ... moreBack in the day, transistors were measured in mm
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SShock, 17 Jun 2022It's also evident from SD 8 Gen1 and Exynos 2200 compa... moreThe D9000 is finally on global thanks to the vanilla X80 from Vivo
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SShock, 17 Jun 2022It's also evident from SD 8 Gen1 and Exynos 2200 compa... moreD9000 is not china exclusive. It's available here already and so is D8100 and other Mediatek chips. Thing is, Mediatek is just not too popular outside China so they prefer to put SD chips in most phones
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- 17 Jun 2022
Anonymous, 17 Jun 2022AMD were lucky intel stuck in 14nm too long.Just imagine how long they could stay on their 10nm disguised as 7nm.
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SShock, 17 Jun 2022Um, that's not how things go... There are smaller unit... moreThat's mind-blowing how small it can get!
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- 17 Jun 2022
Anonymous, 17 Jun 2022Yes, they forget few years ago Apple chips were made at Sam... moreIt's also evident from SD 8 Gen1 and Exynos 2200 comparison. On paper, they are similar design chips. Both are made using exactly the same Samsung fab node. Yet SD 8 Gen1 is better in performance and power compared to Exynos 2200.
The totally overhyped Dimensity 9000 is similar core design as SD 8 Gen1 and Exynos 2200, made at TSMC and despite all the hype, it turned out not to be all that amazing. I mean, the hype was it's the coolest, fastest chipset we've ever seen. But with initial leaks I've seen, it had underwhelming performance given all the hype. It's just issue that all the phones listed here on GSMArena using Dimensity 9000 are China exclusives and they haven't tested a single one to have any point of reference. So much that it feels like Dimensity 9000 doesn't even exist because it's almost impossible to actually get a phone with said chipset and I have to just base everything on those leaks.
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- 17 Jun 2022
SShock, 17 Jun 2022The fact you just said that shows you're also clueless... moreYes, they forget few years ago Apple chips were made at Samsung Semicon and had no issues ...
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wanderer, 17 Jun 2022I`m wondering why chip makers don`t just go with the latest... morePrice?
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IpsDisplay, 17 Jun 2022People don't "cluelessly" worship TSMC Th... moreThe fact you just said that shows you're also clueless. Chip design is 80% of chips core performance. The remaining 20% may be yielded from lower power leakage and lower temperatures. What all the clueless people here seem to believe is that 80% of chip's performance is down to TSMC and the remaining 20% is chip design. Or it may just as well be pure magic. They don't seem to be sure.
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- 17 Jun 2022
Insane. The Snapdragon S1 from ~ 2008 was produced on 65nm chips. 17 years later and the SoC's are on 2nm! wtf.
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- 17 Jun 2022
8g2 is not 3nm, still 4.
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- 17 Jun 2022
whatt..okay goodbye k50/poco x4 gt..time to save moneeyy ahahahahahaha
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- 17 Jun 2022
3NM or 2NM still too big.
I wanna see at least Pico but Femto, Atto, or Zetto even better.
But when comes to CPU maybe in 2100 or 2200 or before 3000 we will use 1 Yocto as a proper measurement.
NM still way too big. But much smaller than PCs 70 years ago covering whole one large room such as we saw in Enigma movie.
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- 17 Jun 2022
Anonymous, 17 Jun 2022After N2, then N1, then N0, After that N (minus)1 = N-1?No , the smallest size of transistors we can reach is 0.6 nm because the size of a silicon molecule is 0.2 nm and you need at least 3 molecules to make a transistor .
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Anonymous, 17 Jun 2022What will come after 1nmAfter 1nm mark is passed, then 90cnm will come to pass
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- 17 Jun 2022
I was wondering.. will there be any flagship level SD processor after SD 870 without heating and throttling issues? Nodes size reduction and minor performance improvement after every two years.. are these the only upcoming goals of TSMC and Samsung to achieve?
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- 17 Jun 2022
Would the user notice any difference between 3nm and 2nm chips?
It's desperately trying to fluff a flagging market with specification fetishism.
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- 17 Jun 2022
And phones will only get bigger and 'not have room for the headphone jack'. Let's go!!!!!!
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- 17 Jun 2022
I`m wondering why chip makers don`t just go with the latest tech if they already have the components to make them, and insist on making incremental upgrade. But yeah, business wise, I believe their approach is more profitable