TSMC's 3nm chips are coming in 2023, 2nm in 2025
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- 17 Jun 2022
SShock, 17 Jun 2022This is GSMArena. People here just cluelessly worship TSMC ... moreThe only "clueless worshippers" here are the buyers of a certain fruit company 😁
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- 17 Jun 2022
I will wait for -1 or -2nm tech
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- 17 Jun 2022
Anonymous, 17 Jun 2022After N2, then N1, then N0, After that N (minus)1 = N-1?mn > nm > pn
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SShock, 17 Jun 2022This is GSMArena. People here just cluelessly worship TSMC ... morePeople don't "cluelessly" worship TSMC
They see their resume, controversies of chipsets
And make a a logic conclusion of TSMCs quality
And let's not go with narrative or implying that chip design is the superior determining factor
Yeild, density etc from the NM process is just as important
Even in architecture/construction I don't hear people talking about how superior blueprints are.. I hear equal concern for the TOOLS and MATERIALS used..
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Anonymous, 17 Jun 2022lmao not at all Intel 10nm have more density of transistors than tsmc 7nm
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Wkkshhh, 17 Jun 2022...and Intel still struggling with 7 and 5nm. 🤣Actually intel is a legit participant in the 2nm race ...
They have similar plans
Intel has their own 2nm technology
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- 17 Jun 2022
What will come after 1nm
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DMX, 17 Jun 2022And he fights everyoneAMD were lucky intel stuck in 14nm too long.
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- 17 Jun 2022
After N2, then N1, then N0,
After that N (minus)1 = N-1?
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Wkkshhh, 17 Jun 2022...and Intel still struggling with 7 and 5nm. 🤣And he fights everyone
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- 17 Jun 2022
Can't wait until them reach N0
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- 17 Jun 2022
SShock, 17 Jun 2022Um, that's not how things go... There are smaller unit... moreWe can keep going because the current 5nm is not associated with any metric in the actual transistor. I think I saw somewhere that the smallest thing about a 5nm transistor is bigger than 10nm and somewhere around 16nm maybe, I don’t quite remember.
Physics people said that a silicon atom is like 2nm or whatever. And I don’t think that a jump to a smaller node has to even come with smaller physical components, it just means that it is more power efficient / dense / performant compared to the old node. This started around the 300nm era, where nodes were actually better than advertised, and deviated more with the introduction of FinFET in the early 2010s, where the nm was roughly compared to an old 2D equivalent even though the actual chip was built on a more performant 3D process, so the nm numbers are lower than reality.
(It‘s possible that this comment contains half-knowledge.)
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- 17 Jun 2022
I think both TSMC and Samsung manufacturing 2nm on 2025 is the time for intel to get ahead
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- 17 Jun 2022
Wow the performance and energy gains have really slowed down rapidly.
We need alternate technology like CNT or photonics.
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- 17 Jun 2022
SShock, 17 Jun 2022Um, that's not how things go... There are smaller unit... moreThis is sarcasm bro I know what nm is haha. Just thinking what could be the limit of innovations human technology has prepared for us; smaller transistors is expected, but what else?
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Ra-Iri, 17 Jun 2022Yeah really looking forward to 0nm chips in 2027Um, that's not how things go... There are smaller units than nanometer you know. 0nm chip is a chip that's not where it should have been. It doesn't exist. There could theoretically be a 0.8nm chip or a 800 picometers. Or 900pm or 500pm, we'll see how far they can even go. They were saying we'd have massive fabbing problems below 7nm using silicon I believe and it seems we can keep on going.
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Anonymous, 17 Jun 2022How often until you get it, nm is just a marketing term and... moreThis is GSMArena. People here just cluelessly worship TSMC as some kind of lord savior, entirely ignoring the fact that it's chip design that dictates if something is efficient or not and fab node is just that little cherry on top that gives the chip an edge in the end, not a defining characteristic.
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- 17 Jun 2022
Anonymous, 17 Jun 2022How often until you get it, nm is just a marketing term and... morelmao not at all
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Wkkshhh, 17 Jun 2022...and Intel still struggling with 7 and 5nm. 🤣How often until you get it, nm is just a marketing term and not comparable across manufacturers. Intel 14nm is comparable to TSMC 7nm