Rumor: HTC M7 to use stacked sensor with ultrapixels

04 February, 2013
The image sensor will be like Sigma's Foveon X3 with three light-sensing layers stacked on top of each other.

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  • Anonymous
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  • 26 Feb 2013

AnonD-112678, 13 Feb 2013I hope that either this rumour ISN'T true or that they've w... moreFrankyboy5 wrote: "I hope that either this rumour ISN'T true or that they've worked hard to have good low light performance. Foveon sensors are notorious for bad lowlight performance. Sigma remains better known for their often cheaper "third party" lenses for..."
Wrong, Foveon sensors are notorious for their high ISO performance...They work perfectly well in low ligh at low ISOs.

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    • Jason
    • wiX
    • 19 Feb 2013

    However good is the camera sensor... without a proper xenon flash... just forget it.

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      • AnonD-112678
      • qbu
      • 13 Feb 2013

      I hope that either this rumour ISN'T true or that they've worked hard to have good low light performance. Foveon sensors are notorious for bad lowlight performance. Sigma remains better known for their often cheaper "third party" lenses for other camera brands.

      People are bashing HTC like they bash Canon lol and they treat Samsung like Nikon. Every HTC comment section has at least one person complaining "no removable battery, no removable storage", just like how people complain Canon "lacks innovation, poor performance compared to Nikon!"

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        • AnonD-110715
        • bxd
        • 08 Feb 2013

        I am using HTC since HTC Touch Pro....... until now i am using HTC One X..... i has used these phone very tough, dropped from 1 to 2 high...... and no major damage. Just a little scratch....... i choose HTC because of it's build quality......

        My wife used samsung Galaxy S2 and now S3, very annoying Phone....... the screen is very easy to broke.... hahaahhahahaahahahha......

        Nokia is similar with samsung.... Sony???? i used Xperia 10 before.... i feel so stupid when using it...

        But i agree that HTC are week in term of battery, and it's sense make the phone processing power low...

        Samsung app are more very productive.... but build quality are very poor.....

        Nokia are good when making camera phone... and Microsoft window phone 8 really helped...

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          • 0u55
          • Er6
          • 07 Feb 2013

          the_ulf, 06 Feb 2013The primary light colours are RGB, yellow sits in between r... more+1 ;)

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            • Ou55
            • Er6
            • 07 Feb 2013

            Anonymous, 06 Feb 2013primary colors? the writer better review his basics.... the... morePouahahahahahahaha you don't even make the difference between primary LIGHT colors and primary PAINTING colors and you come here to criticize an expert ? hmmmm I'm not sure but I think it is you who must review his basics, am I wrong ?? XD

            here a very interesting video for you, watch and learn !

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbxy1W9O_Wk

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              • the_ulf
              • sXU
              • 06 Feb 2013

              Anonymous, 06 Feb 2013primary colors? the writer better review his basics.... the... moreThe primary light colours are RGB, yellow sits in between red & green. We're not talking about your little painting by numbers colouring-in set.

              My suggestion: think before you type. Might save you some embarrassment.

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                • Anonymous
                • 7Xc
                • 06 Feb 2013

                primary colors? the writer better review his basics.... the primary colors are Red Yellow and Blue... and not RGB... Green is a combination of Yellow and Blue... Now, computers use either RGB format or CYMK... that doesn't mean RGB are primary colors...

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                  • shanu
                  • iwp
                  • 06 Feb 2013

                  world best phone is htc who care others

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                    • AnonD-79867
                    • j01
                    • 05 Feb 2013

                    i dont think they can beat nokia and Sony

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                      • Pretoria
                      • f0b
                      • 05 Feb 2013

                      this will become a camera phone. Rise HTC rise

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                        • Anonymous
                        • mjP
                        • 05 Feb 2013

                        Anonymous, 05 Feb 2013Ah... I see, so its ok for Nokia to copy Sigma's technology... more"so its ok for Nokia to copy Sigma" ... prove this

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                          • AnonD-59505
                          • uS6
                          • 05 Feb 2013

                          Ho Ho Ho....HTC trying to copy Nokia. Why don't they get this no one match Nokia when it comes down to the camera capability.

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                            • zebarnabe
                            • TqY
                            • 05 Feb 2013

                            No one is copying no one ppl (well, HTC might be getting the sensors from Sigma itself as far as we know it). Nokia technology is based in over sampling, while the Foveon X3 sensors used by Sigma are based in pixel stacking. Sigma sensors are much older than Nokia's Pureview (And Nokia's Pureview solution in 808 is just a 'software' solution applied in hardware for maximum speed and energy efficiency).

                            In Nokia sensors you have 40MP or so, spacially arranged in different positions, thus ensuring quite a bit of detail resolving power.

                            In Foveon X3, the stacking allows a better assessment of the color at one place, avoiding color moire or other similar issues that otherwise appear in normal sensors. Usually this also means a more pleasant noise when ISO gets higher.

                            As a side note, Fujifilm EXR sensors were also a diferent type of pixel layout that enhanced dynamic range at the cost of detail resolving power.

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                              • Tom
                              • 0wQ
                              • 05 Feb 2013

                              So there's hope we'll see another company except Nokia that considers mobile photography seriously. Because what the others are doing is simply they bump megapixels, without real innovation.

                              Even the big Samsung don't bring anything innovative into this field.

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                                • Anonymous
                                • Mg@
                                • 05 Feb 2013

                                the_ulf, 04 Feb 2013How is it copying Nokia's tech when Nokia uses maths to add... moreAh... I see, so its ok for Nokia to copy Sigma's technology, but not others? Point noted.

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                                  • b1acktiger
                                  • rK3
                                  • 05 Feb 2013

                                  hemedans, 04 Feb 2013htc they can not produce phones these days without copying ... moreWake up dude, you can't say that Nokia is the old one in the industry so is HTC. If that's the point, Nokia copied HTC for the touch screen technology, windows Mobile, 4G technology or whatever left.

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                                    • the_ulf
                                    • sXU
                                    • 04 Feb 2013

                                    hemedans, 04 Feb 2013htc they can not produce phones these days without copying ... moreHow is it copying Nokia's tech when Nokia uses maths to add up the values of neighbouring pixels to "create" one true colour component pixel, which is merely a calculation of 'traditionally' obtained data, when it's clearly explained that this tech has one pixel capturing all three colours natively? I fail to see your point.

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                                      • AnonD-69184
                                      • fkV
                                      • 04 Feb 2013

                                      hemedans, 04 Feb 2013htc they can not produce phones these days without copying ... moreSo htc is not allowed to make good sensors ?

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                                        • hemedans
                                        • NwI
                                        • 04 Feb 2013

                                        htc they can not produce phones these days without copying nokia technology