Sony is reportedly working on its first 100MP sensor for phones
- YUKI93
- K1L
- 21 Jun 2022
Considering that Samsung first made a 100MP camera sensor in 2019 because of Xiaomi, I wonder how Sony can catch up.
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- Samath N8 808 owner
- DkX
- 21 Jun 2022
Nick Tegrataker, 21 Jun 2022"The full resolution is software based (100%)"
R... moreBoth of you are not wrong. Just that your info is latest and his is old info.
The earliest 48MP sensors were actually very bad at 12 Megapixel (2x zoom), so much that the full res shots' huge filesizes were a burden and not enough of an advantage.
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- DGV
- 21 Jun 2022
Larger sensor size reduce noise and dynamic range increase , more pixels don't help
- you have to suffer
- wrg
- 21 Jun 2022
notafanboy, 21 Jun 2022You tried to sound smart and failed miserably because 1. it... morei like how his name is a cheap type of display.
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- Nick Tegrataker
- Xpf
- 21 Jun 2022
Anonymous, 21 Jun 2022Or make bayer 25MP already. Sacrifice useless 8K (upscaled... more"The full resolution is software based (100%)"
Remosaicing is an on-sensor process (as per Sony's official announcement of IMX586), which means when the sensor is read out in full resolution mode, by the time an ISP receives the data it has been already converted to a regular Bayer pattern.
"useless digital zoom (upscale and sharpening)"
Numerous samples on GSMARena disagree with you, pal. The 2x samples resolve more details because these phones capture extra resolution using their Quad Bayer/Nonacell sensors and use it effectively.
1x
https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/22/realme-gt-neo-3t/camera/gsmarena_030.jpg
https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/22/oppo-reno7-lite-5g/camera/gsmarena_005.jpg
https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/21/samsung-galaxy-a52s-5g/camera/gsmarena_020.jpg
https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/22/poco-x4-pro-5g/camera/gsmarena_006.jpg
2x
https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/22/realme-gt-neo-3t/camera/gsmarena_006.jpg
https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/22/oppo-reno7-lite-5g/camera/gsmarena_006.jpg
https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/21/samsung-galaxy-a52s-5g/camera/gsmarena_021.jpg
https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/22/poco-x4-pro-5g/camera/gsmarena_049.jpg
"Stop doing this in failed attempt to grab attention"
I have no idea what the hell even your point is.
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- kek
- GBh
- 21 Jun 2022
Lulfie, 21 Jun 2022Cameras are 99% software. Look at apple with their 13 mpCameras are mostly physics and lenses. Software can only do so much.
And iPhone's sensor are 12 MP, but they are huge sensors (for a phone, that is) with big pixels, so that's why they can work their stuff on it.
All those 48MP sensors are trash and they relied on pixel binning, which creates another share of problems.
- notafanboy
- pD}
- 21 Jun 2022
IpsDisplay, 21 Jun 2022Translation your short sighted
You don't want to ha... moreYou tried to sound smart and failed miserably because 1. it's you're not your
and 2. your username is IpsDisplay.
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- Lulfie
- 8vZ
- 21 Jun 2022
Tomy159, 21 Jun 2022😂 😂 100MP? Is not enough I need min 300MP That is useless.... moreCameras are 99% software. Look at apple with their 13 mp
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- Tomy159
- nxv
- 21 Jun 2022
😂 😂 100MP? Is not enough I need min 300MP
That is useless. If you want great super duper pictures buy mirrorless camera
Or camera recorder.
We talking smartphone when is 10% picture chip and 90% SW.
OK maybe less but in mobile device is more or less that true.
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- AnonD-844232
- Cx@
- 21 Jun 2022
But they need to work on the design and scrap old style design with top and bottom still as no display.. 100% screen to body ratio under display camera..
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- IpsDisplay
- 4m}
- 21 Jun 2022
notafanboy, 21 Jun 2022Anything over 50MP is a huge gimmick. I hate the megapickle... moreTranslation your short sighted
You don't want to have an open mind..
History just keep repeating itself.. keep resisting change only inevitably accept it in the long run..
Then when 100mp is industry standard we gonna hear 120mp is A gimmick
This computational photography for smartphones higher megapixels make sense with the heavy data manipulation direction we are heading towards
But as usual people want to force the rules of DSLRs unto smartphones and think higher MP is a gimmick
I remember when higher than 12mp was a gimmick
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- Aierlan
- gQA
- 21 Jun 2022
Nick Tegrataker, 21 Jun 2022Something like a 1/1.12 inch 100MP Quad Bayer sensor would ... moreYeah, but unfortunately this one seems to be aimed at midrangers so it's probably not going to be so large (if these rumours are correct). So far the hmx combined with the Xiaomi 11 was still probably the best combination detail wise for photos in good light but it didn't do as well in lowlight. A sensor like you mention seems like it would make sense for more high end phones
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- TheLastOracle
- vG1
- 21 Jun 2022
Would love to see Sony and Samsung collaborate on a few technologies like the new '2-Layer Transistor Pixel', and combine it with the Triple Gain Sensor technology, they both presented papers on. It could substantially increase dynamic range and improve noise drastically. It could easily equal or beat all present full frame sensors in dynamic range (which is 14 stops). The new Alexa35 apparently does 17 stops at a SNR of 2. So, that should still remains top dog for a few years though.
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- Anonymous
- Lkg
- 21 Jun 2022
Nick Tegrataker, 21 Jun 2022Something like a 1/1.12 inch 100MP Quad Bayer sensor would ... moreOr make bayer 25MP already. Sacrifice useless 8K (upscaled 4K/6K from certain chinese brand).
There is no "after binning". Sensors are made to read 4 or 9 by default. The full resolution is software based (100%) while 4-1 is hardware based as well, since filter above pixels is not gonna switch position despite some people here think it can be done.
Samples and reviews have proven full res more has zero benefit . It exist just to allow them to brag about 8K and useless digital zoom (upscale and sharpening).
Stop doing this in failed attempt to grab attention. You just embarass yourself.
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- Anonymous
- Lkg
- 21 Jun 2022
Anonymous, 21 Jun 2022c'mon Sony work a bit on your Auto (point-n'-shoo... moreTurn on HDR, this is what all other do.
There is no "software proper for auto".
Manual just locks settings , does not changing anything else.
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- Anonymous
- P%0
- 21 Jun 2022
FarFan, 21 Jun 2022That's a bummer. True 4K screen can show only 8MP, OLE... more🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ where do u think that professional photographers/videographers watch back/edit their stuff, on an 8k TV??
Maybe try watching oversampled (or higher than native res) video first, and then come up with such opinions.
Btw I do agree with u that this Mpx race is not worth it, after a certain point that is (don't tell me 12MP is enough tho lol) and I also tend to prefer traditional Bayer sensor (the good old Lumias😍) over QB/tetra/nonacell sensors, but there's no denying that they too have their benefits after binning in some situations.
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- Anonymous
- SHp
- 21 Jun 2022
I need huge 300 gram phone with op sensor. I'm currently carrying 2 phones in the same pocket - about 400 grams, and no problems with that whatsoever. Using them as a foldable or mini laptop.
- notafanboy
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- 21 Jun 2022
Anything over 50MP is a huge gimmick. I hate the megapickle race. STOP It!!!
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- Nick Tegrataker
- Xpf
- 21 Jun 2022
Something like a 1/1.12 inch 100MP Quad Bayer sensor would be nice - after binning you would still get 25MP resolution at the effective pixel pitch of 2µm, so both daytime and nighttime performance could be exceptional without sacrificing one another. Time to put 12/48/50MP sensors flooding the market to an end.