ARM unveils Cortex-X3 (+25% peak performance) and Cortex-A715 (+20% efficiency)

29 June 2022
These are second generation ARMv9 design and both are 64-bit only. The little A510 core has no successor yet, but small improvements made it more efficient as well.

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  • 30 Jun 2022

Fulljack, 29 Jun 2022having 4 of it are literally useless, as Apple manage to cr... more"So useless" . What a coincidence that so many phones with octa A53 have giant battery endurance. None with X2 are can match.

    Fulljack, 30 Jun 2022the beauty of capitalism. if there's no competition, n... moreThey do spend a lot in R&D, its Just you cant make Core in a short period of time. Nuvia has a promise of 2000 geekbench 5 score in single thread perfomance, which is Bold and if they manage that next year or 2024 they will be ahead of same as Apple.

      Hemedans, 29 Jun 2022Vice versa is True, Qualcomm is one of the company which at... morethe beauty of capitalism. if there's no competition, no need to improve further, amirite?

      semi-custom are just a name, anyway. no one actually bothers to change the cores, only how the cache works and the microcode implementation through independently developed thermal and voltage solution.

      I long for the day Android become competitive against Apple, hardware wise. but no, everyone's are on their head and decided to not invest in R&D, but rather in marketing.

        Anonymous, 29 Jun 2022I'm a iPhone 11 user and I live in a country with 31°C... moreIphone 11/13 series are more efficient than 12 series atleast in Gsmaren test.

          Fulljack, 29 Jun 2022I do, Qualcomm is a greedy corporation who doesn't try... moreVice versa is True, Qualcomm is one of the company which atleast Try to make Android ecosystem as Good place.

          You Have multi Billion Companies like Mediatek, Arm, Samsung, Huawei etc for decade they are using Mali Gpu and they dont even bother to improve Drivers only Qualcomm care to provide Good drivers.

          Also look at Modding and Aosp Enviroment, Only Qualcomm care to provide Drivers and Necessity tools for Developers.

          When it come to support for their Hardware they are Undisputed in Android system.

          About those Cores, for Years Qualcomm used Custom cores (Krait then kryo) until sd 820 era, then Arm produced cortex A7x series from cortex A73 to cortex A77/78 things proceed smoothly, Qualcomm abandon those Custom cores and they used semi custom soc with Arm cores.

          Then Arm came with Cortex X cores which destroyed everthing, Its Not Qualcomm fault these cores are bad, thats why they start developing custom cores again with Nuvia.

          Up to cortex A78 Android didnt lose efficient to Apple soc, its only these X cores.

            Anonymous, 29 Jun 2022The A510 will be used when we're not using the phone. ... morehaving 4 of it are literally useless, as Apple manage to create Icestorm cores that both twice faster while also uses half of the power at the same time. low power? it doesn't even much more efficient than what Apple offers.

              Anonymous, 29 Jun 2022You don't know what you're talking about.I do, Qualcomm is a greedy corporation who doesn't try to improve their product stacks because they didn't see themselves as Apple competitor, but instead as Mediatek, Huawei, or Samsung LSI competitor.

              fun fact, did you know that Apple Icestorm cores are twice the performance of Cortex-A55 from Snapdragon 865, while also simultaneously uses half of the power? that's 4x efficiency right there!

                SShock, 29 Jun 2022I have a better idea, why not just use Cortex X3 on all 8 c... morethat's actually a good idea for future workstation Snapdragon 8cx, actually.

                  Anonymous, 29 Jun 2022For those who didn't get what this guy suggesting is b... morethank you! finally someone gets it. I just wanted to add why Cortex-A55 or Cortex-A510 are basically useless on flagship grade. Anandtech has benchmarked Thunder (efficiency) cores from A13 has twice the performance of A55 from Snapdragon 855 while also using half of the power. this graphs escalate further with their finding with A14 Icestorm (efficiency) cores, which improves performance while also still made it use less power.

                  seriously, why flagship needs in-order architecture cores in 2023?

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                    • 29 Jun 2022

                    Fulljack, 29 Jun 2022Mediatek or Qualcomm shoupd step up the game and build a fl... moreFor those who didn't get what this guy suggesting is basically same approach with Apple.

                    Apple's small cores are more akin to ARM's middle cores or big cores before the Cortex-X.

                    Chipmakers doesn't have to clock middle cores to max speeds. As people can see from power/performance curves, below a certain clock speeds middle cores more efficient than higher clocked small cores.

                    2+4+2 would make more sense IMO, since small cores also covers extremely low power needs, and since their die area is so small cost of the manufacturing wouldn't rise significantly.

                    People just don't get 2 big + 4 middle setup is not needed for full boost from all of these cores. 2 big cores with short bursts would make app launches faster similar to Apple. 4 middle core will handle the rest.

                    1+3+4 is cheaper that's why we get it.

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                      • 29 Jun 2022

                      Increased efficiency in every generation of processors but overall battery endurance goes down for flagships

                      Not so efficient after all

                        What about noticeable improvements to the graphics, Imaging Processor and Imaging? Breaking up tasks via IP and Graphics often makes tasks much faster, than CPU improvements alone. And the different is drastic.
                        I wonder if SoC makers are doing enough for heat management, especially of the X1 and X2 cores, and other high performance cores. Better heat sinks to begin with.

                          Fulljack, 29 Jun 2022Mediatek or Qualcomm shoupd step up the game and build a fl... moreI have a better idea, why not just use Cortex X3 on all 8 cores and just ditch all the rest. Because you absolutely need all the compute brute force to make background refreshing of e-mails this way.

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                            • 29 Jun 2022

                            Fulljack, 29 Jun 2022Mediatek or Qualcomm shoupd step up the game and build a fl... moreYou don't know what you're talking about.

                              Tb, 29 Jun 2022We need consistent performance and good efficiency forget a... morePhones that are currently scoring 1100+ on single core in Geekbench should absolutely focus on efficiency. This is plenty fast for daily tasks, but eats battery like mad. Why make this even faster when we'd benefit from efficiency way more...

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                                • 29 Jun 2022

                                1+4+4 = 9 cores in a smartphone??

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                                  Wongwatt, 29 Jun 2022My iPhone 12 still overheats if I try to use Maps on a sunn... moreI'm a iPhone 11 user and I live in a country with 31°C minimum (all years round) and 37/38°C during dry season. Never experienced overheating on my iPhone when I'm using map, plus I'm using case on my iPhone. You people like to exaggerate something that you don't even used 🙄

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                                    • 29 Jun 2022

                                    They should speed up Phones with new 710 510 cores..we are still at A78core and upcoming phones using A78

                                      Couldn't they just go an extra inch, made another efficiency tweaks and call that so-called A510 (2022) as simply A515 to better match its bigger sibling A715?

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                                        • 29 Jun 2022

                                        We need consistent performance and good efficiency forget about peak performance

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