Motorola reveals unusual focal lengths for X30 Pro’s triple camera

30 June 2022
The X30 Pro will have a 200MP main camera sensor.

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  • Anonymous
  • jyG
  • 27 Jul 2022

How could a 12MP telephoto camera at 85mm focal length ever outperform 1.7x digital zoom on a 200MP sensor at 50mm?

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    • Alex
    • HBh
    • 23 Jul 2022

    Nick Tegrataker, 01 Jul 2022https://www.canon.com.au/get-inspired/glossary/ultra-wide-a... more"you're very welcome" lol
    Imagine someone proving other people completely right but because he knows nothing about what he's talking, he still acts all witty like he's proud of showing his "superior" intelect...
    People, like some other guy said, if you don't know anything about a subject, just don't comment, and especially don't comment trying to sound like you got such a superior knowledge about it.
    I don't only know the basics and I know that full frame(36mm x 24mm) with a 24mm is the same as, for example, the new Xiaomi "1 inch" sensor(13.2mm x 8.8mm) with a 9mm focal point.
    Now, if you knew that phone companies market their phones focal lengths accordingly to a full frame sensor,
    you would've said it. But it just sounds like you think that focal lengths are actually all the same. Probably even believe that the 1 inch sensor has 1 inch in any of its dimensions. Cheesy phone camera marketing is the worse marketing, having 200MP with binning to output 12.5MP instead of 12MP is the same. All made to sell to people like this, so we never get to have decent phones. We will never have the "1 inch" sensor with 12MP and binning because companies need to market big numbers to these people. That's why I'm so bitter toward them...
    You're welcome!.. I guess

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      • S Yu
      • vU9
      • 14 Jul 2022

      oio, 14 Jul 2022don't think anyone wants a 21mm focal lengthIt forms a rough 2x-2x relationship between the 3 lenses, and leaves relatively conservative FoV that allows for a large sensor paired with a fast lens. The Aquos R6 has a 21mm equiv. at 1" f/2 as its only back camera module, without an overly thick body.

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        • tuh
        • 14 Jul 2022

        S Yu, 03 Jul 2022Interesting...but 21-45-90 sounds much better.don't think anyone wants a 21mm focal length

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          • S Yu
          • vU9
          • 03 Jul 2022

          Interesting...but 21-45-90 sounds much better.

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            • Shui8
            • KZK
            • 01 Jul 2022

            Anonymous, 30 Jun 2022Ultra Wide is wider than 8mm. What brands call ultra w... moreYou are wrong. Big time.

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              • AnonD-731363
              • SH3
              • 01 Jul 2022

              Everything is way better than perfect apart the fact this phone have curved screen.
              I hate fragile curved screens which are hard and expensive for repairs and also are slippery in hands and no proper screen protector fits.

                Motorola has good taste, now let's see if they can deliver on the software side as well.

                  Anonymous, 30 Jun 2022Ultra Wide is wider than 8mm. What brands call ultra w... morehttps://www.canon.com.au/get-inspired/glossary/ultra-wide-angle-lens

                  "An ultra-wide angle lens is any lens with an angle of view greater than 90 degrees and shorter than a wide-angle lens. Generally speaking, it’s any lens shorter than a 24mm lens on a full-frame sensor."

                  You're very welcome.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • nI8
                    • 30 Jun 2022

                    I like this approach; ultra wides are horrible

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                      • Lccy
                      • n1k
                      • 30 Jun 2022

                      Just now there was an amazing double rainbow, unfortunately on my pixel 3 I don't have a telephoto, super-res zoom doesn't hold a candle to proper zoom.

                      The 27 or 28mm equivalent lens on the pixel 3 (4.44mm Vs 4.38 on pixel 4/4a/5/5a) is longer than most modern phones, I've had the Nokia 7 plus which is 25mm equivalent, as for how often has the lens been not wide enough, very very rarely, maybe like on an aeroplane in economy class when I am cramped in a tiny seat trying to photograph my meal.

                      The problem with ultra wide lenses is that the human eyeball is round, so whereas the further you look, the flatter the image just like a rectilinear 2d screen, a wider lens has to incorporate a wider angle of view into a flat 2d image, so it looks unnatural to our eyes. The only situations I would use it is for artistic purpose or when I cannot back up, but I don'tb find such images flattering or natural.

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                        • n1k
                        • 30 Jun 2022

                        Magnificent Suleiman, 30 Jun 2022No ultrawide when every phone with more than one 'real... moreMost phones used to use a telephoto lens as their secondary lens but then phone makers realised they could charge a premium for it and it was easier to implement an ultra wide, so now if you want a telephoto, you have to buy a flagship or upgrade from to the iPhone pro from the standard iPhone.

                        What if I want a telephoto camera on the pixel 6? I have no choice but to upgrade to the pro

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                          • untiop
                          • 7tW
                          • 30 Jun 2022

                          In recent times, I am always taking pics with 1.4 - 1.6x zoom on the primary camera just to get a better perspective of humans or even landscapes.. Also I am already a motorola user.

                          And was dreaming maybe upcoming edge 30 ultra could have a 3x Zoom. Instead of the rumored 2x, just to get better human pictures(even tho I couldnt afford one right now).

                          But somehow motorola has a 50 mm lens and a 85mm on the edge 30 ultra. Feels like motorola heard me or something lol..
                          Great move, imo. I always prefer telephoto over wide as I feel its okay to have a bad telephoto but not a bad wide angle one, compared to the primary sensor. Lets see how this plays out.

                            So close. And this is just personal preference but I do wish they had gone with 16 or 18mm UW to keep distortion down and doubling as macro, 40mm standard and 85mm tele.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • Lkg
                              • 30 Jun 2022

                              captain fokou, 30 Jun 2022If you don't know, don't comment. 35mm-16mm gene... moreUltra Wide is wider than 8mm.

                              What brands call ultra wide (12, 13, 16, 18) is actually super wide

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                                • Magnificent Suleiman
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                                • 30 Jun 2022

                                No ultrawide when every phone with more than one 'real' camera has one is an intriguing and surprising change. Will this phone finally revert the bad reputation Motorola has had in the camera department in the past?

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • Lkg
                                  • 30 Jun 2022

                                  I support this move. Waste of space and money having camera wider than 23mm.

                                  Since main is 35mm, the secnd should be around 70.

                                    Well, skipping an ultra-wide camera is a surprise, but I am OK with it, if the main camera is wider than usually main cameras are. A longer telephoto is welcome to many I believe.

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                                      • 30 Jun 2022

                                      AnonD-1042738, 30 Jun 202212mm Ultrawide 28mm Main Cam 84mm Tele Is my standard Which phone has it?

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                                        • CbD
                                        • 30 Jun 2022

                                        Cool Moto