Google's Tensor 3 CPU and Samsung's Exynos 1380 reportedly in the works

27 August 2022
It seems that the company will continue their partnership throughout 2023.

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  • 27 Aug 2022

Seeing how the E1280 is objectively worse than the E1080, any improvements they make would only bring them back upto (or hopefully better than) where they were 2 years ago!🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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    • 27 Aug 2022

    joe nodden, 27 Aug 2022Maybe they will finally make some good SoCs! Lol jk. Ev... moreTAMC is just an assembly factory
    You tell then what SoC design you want and they offer you

      Grey Wolf, 27 Aug 2022I am curious, which SD695 phone cost 200EUR or less? The ch... moreIn Europe the cheapest i saw is Honor magic 4 lite 230 Euro and Nord ce 2 lite for 220 Euro. . But in other place like India, SEA countries, East Asia, Africa etc there are phones like Vivo T1, Moto G71 etc with 4GB ram they are available under $200 sometime even 6GB ram.

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        • 27 Aug 2022

        The Flip, 27 Aug 2022This is why I have no allegiance to any phone brand any mor... moreMoney. The pixel 6/pro are using older samsung parts (screen/modem) and more likely got a deal with samsung for using their camera and exynos instead of paying a higher price for Qualcomm/snapdragon combo

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          • 27 Aug 2022

          Grey Wolf, 27 Aug 2022I am curious, which SD695 phone cost 200EUR or less? The ch... moreI got the moto G71 for my brother in the amazon prime days for 180€, 695 + OLED screen, nice deal.

            Maybe they will finally make some good SoCs!

            Lol jk. Every year there's the same hype over their next chip being this new revolutionary one and it fails miserably. Always a generation or two behind TSMC.

              Kangal, 27 Aug 2022The designs I'm mostly excited about are (0+5+0), (0+3... moreWow.. how do you know all these? Amazing

                PMKLR3m, 27 Aug 2022I think google tensor 2 and exinos 1380 are going to be the same.They will def be the same . "Rebadge Exynos 1380 and call it Tensor 3 and we are good to go" that's their last meeting i think lol

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                  • 27 Aug 2022

                  Hemedans, 27 Aug 2022Cortex A78 is available in sd 695, we have phone under $200... moreI am curious, which SD695 phone cost 200EUR or less? The cheapest SD695 that I can find in my country, is the Poco X4 Pro, and that one cost 300EUR (6Gb/128Gb variant).
                  At 200EUR, you can find Helio G96 or SD680 phones (like Poco M4 Pro 4G, Motorola G52 or Redmi Note 11/11S). Not very bad chipsets, but certainly not mid-range level.

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                    • Anonymous
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                    • 27 Aug 2022

                    I hope the Tensor 3 chipset is going to have a vastly improved modem, from the original Tensor chips (1 and 2), because the modem in the original chipsets is now notorious for providing the worst signal of any phone people have ever had, as well as having other connectivity issues and problems handing off between cellular and wifi.

                      This is why I have no allegiance to any phone brand any more. I was all about #TeamPixel for life. Google has gone astray to what I prefer in phones since 2019.

                      Why can't they just go back to Qualcomm when Samsung can offer phones with Snapdragon 888 and above and we'll still get 4 years of major OS updates and 5 years security updates?

                      I want my retro gaming emulation and only Samsung seems to offer this thanks to their continued use of Snapdragon flagship SoCs. Samsung doesn't even want to use their SoC any more. Only Google is dumb enough to use them.

                        So s23 will be powered by exynos anyway, in Europe? I knew it.

                          I think google tensor 2 and exinos 1380 are going to be the same.

                            Kangal, 27 Aug 2022This is true, the Cortex X1/X2/X3 are not good solutions fo... moreI didnt confuse anything go to Arm website or read Release material, Arm themselves point that Cortex A715 will have same perfomance as X1 while using little power than Cortex A78.

                              SMIRNAS, 27 Aug 2022yeah,, but I'm talking about midrange phone yknaw Cortex A78 is available in sd 695, we have phone under $200 with sd 695, same core are available in sd 888.

                              These are just cores they can be available even in midrange at lower clocks, So its possible for Cortex A715 to be available in Exynos 1380 because currently 1280 has cortex A78.

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                                • Anonymous
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                                • 27 Aug 2022

                                Tensor 3 = Discarded Exynos

                                  DMX, 27 Aug 2022Pixel 4xl Came with the 855, not the 855+ that was the top chipset then. I appreciate it's a small difference, but still.

                                    Anonymous, 27 Aug 2022The ideal chip is : 2 x A715@2.4 GHz + 2 x A715@2.0GHz ... moreThe designs I'm mostly excited about are (0+5+0), (0+3+5), and (1+2+5). Here's why:

                                    0+5+0: Has lowest latency!
                                    5x Cortex-A73 cores which can be miniaturised on the modern TSMC-6nm will run very well. With the cache at a somewhat low (128KB each) amount, they will function similar to Cortex-A55 at low-end but can ramp up performance instantly. We're talking clockspeeds between 2.1GHz all-core, or potentially a 2.6GHz boost. Symmetry is the motto here. Multithreaded software will run fastest in this design, which dictates if this gets the best performance here or the lowest, but it's efficiency should be the higher than other options regardless.

                                    0+3+5: Optimal balance!
                                    Here we will use the DynamIQ / BIG.little setup, which is a net gain. However, since the software platform on AndroidOS is not fully optimised we have landed on this strange setup. We avoid the inefficient Cortex-X1 processor, and invest all that thermal potential into 3x Cortex-A78 cores (512KiB each) which can work together and CONSISTENTLY hit (2.7GHz) high frequencies. The small cores (64KiB) will also be given breathing room, at 2.0GHz all-core, so they can help if possible. There will be slight latency, but better than the industry standard. All-hands on deck is the motto. Efficiency should be great overall, no surprises.

                                    1+2+5: Best Compromise!
                                    While the Cortex X1 in general is inefficient and not very useful, there are certain uses for it. Very intensive calculations, particularly with Emulation (Xbox +), or Intensive Games, or Professional Applications may benefit greatly with the pure grunt (1MiB) it delivers. AndroidOS and the platform is somewhat optimised, however, peculiarities will cause delays in the above two options, and not-here. This design allows the X1 to closer to 3.1GHz potential, instead of throttling like other designs. To make the best use of this core, matching it with 2x Cortex-A73 that are small (128KiB) but work efficiently 2.2GHz will prevent from suffering too many stutters in the middle. The five Cortex-A55 small cores (32KiB), can handle idle tasks. They will barely hit the standard 1.8GHz frequency, and are needed to help boost performance in the midrange tasks. Latency begins to become an issue. Race-to-Idle is the motto here. Good efficiency overall, with sacrifices made to provide the option of bonus performance if/when necessary.

                                      Hemedans, 27 Aug 2022I want soc with cortex A715 more than last year Flagship. S... moreThis is true, the Cortex X1/X2/X3 are not good solutions for phones.
                                      They're fine on tablets which have higher capacity / battery life, and larger surface area for cooling. And they are a necessity when it comes to ARM-Laptops, as performance is important.

                                      But I think you're confused about the cores.
                                      ARMv9 is the new architecture, and the first-gen is the Cortex-A710 which is actually slower and less efficient than the Cortex-A78. On top of that, the Samsung 5nm used is worse than the TSMC 5nm node. That's why 2022's QC 8g1 processor was so bad. Next year it will be built on TSMC 4nm, which is basically the same as the TSMC 5nm, maybe slightly better. And next year, the Cortex-A715 is actually a refresh of the A710. So expect little to no improvements against the QC 8g1+ and MTK Dimensity 9000.

                                      What you really want is the second-generation ARMv9 cores.
                                      This is the ARM Cortex-A730, and it should arrive either in Q3-2023 or (more likely) in Q1-2024. And around that same time, we should see the next full node, the TSMC 3nm lithography. So we should see two major upgrades, and they should make a proper upgrade unlike the original QC 8g1 processor. Anyone on an older system; QSD 855/855+/860/778/780/865/865+/870 can finally upgrade to the 2024 QC 8g3. But those who had upgraded recently QSD 888/888+/8g1/8g1+/8g2 should probably hold out longer.

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                                        • 27 Aug 2022

                                        AndroidAuthority, 27 Aug 2022Because it's cheaper for them. When was the last time ... morePixel 4xl

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