AMD announces Ryzen 7000 series processors, available September 27
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Conderio, 30 Aug 2022You are totally wrong! Intel has officially fused off avx 5... moreRather than replying my first comment. Read my all replies mr genius. You're even worse than him
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AnonD-731363, 30 Aug 2022Depends oon what you call gaming.
Diablo 1, Starcraft 1, ... moreName one game which is not playable in i7 4970, i play anything i want including heavy games like Cyberpunk 2077.
Its 2022 and still i3 and ryzen 3 use 4 core/8 thread configuration, and all games support that.
And running games in 4k or not its gpu task and not cpu, Pair that 4970 with decent gpu you can play 4k.
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rizki1, 31 Aug 2022My question is they can make this fast processor but with a... moreYou can in theory if you put mobile cores like cortex A53, even mobile soc with sd 8 G1 use more than 10W at full power.
This is intended for high perfomance tasks, throttling is not an option, thats why it use more power to deliver that kind of perfomance.
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Hemedans, 30 Aug 2022Different cpu for different market, if you need 10w cpu loo... moreMy question is they can make this fast processor but with a TDP of 170W, can't they do 10W? other than atlhon series or mobile cpu?
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Make mini pc water resistant ,put in it two phone proceerors ,two gpu adreno 730 and it will run better than all this amd big junk boxes
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No news about Ryzen 3? What happened to it?
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Anonymous, 30 Aug 2022As I said you have massive reading comprehension problem. B... moreI think he's talking about the article on Anandtech titled "Intel Architecture Day 2021: Alder Lake, Golden Cove, and Gracemont Detailed".
See Instruction Sets: Alder Lake Dumps AVX-512 in a BIG Way.
"One of the big questions we should address here is how the P-cores and E-cores have been adapted to work inside a hybrid design. One of the critical aspects in a hybrid design is if both cores support different levels of instructions. It is possible to build a processor with an unbalanced instruction support, however that requires hardware to trap unsupported instructions and do core migration mid-execution. The simple way to get around this is to ensure that both types of cores have the same level of instruction support. This is what Intel has done in Alder Lake.
In order to get to this point, Intel had to cut down some of the features of its P-core, and improve some features on the E-core. The biggest thing that gets the cut is that Intel is losing AVX-512 support inside Alder Lake. When we say losing support, we mean that the AVX-512 is going to be physically fused off, so even if you ran the processor with the E-cores disabled at boot time, AVX-512 is still disabled."
You can just search for it.
I am not sure about the 14 SKUs you mentioned. I guess they were released before 2022? I hope the articles helps with your debate.
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SShock, 30 Aug 2022Gracemont cores and their derivatives are entirely incapabl... moreAs I said you have massive reading comprehension problem. But who was only talking about Gracemont microarchitecture here? Yeah only you. Where Alder has totally of 14 cpus with only golden cove microarchitecture what I mentioned. Thus these cpus have full capacity of using avx512 extension. Where you're still confusing between fuse that off for whole alder lake or for cpu have hybrid architecture. There Intel's half dead statement is only for other few desktop cpus and all mobile iGUPs.
And I talked about all other factors to knock you that if you really know anything about these or you're just stretching your empty head. I got my answer tho. To understand avx512 extension all those things are huge factors. You're just making things that can hide your sheer ignorance. So back of for now before the whole community knew about your knowledge barrier.
And don't worry I'll be there to reply your single word comment until the ad min b an me. Then if you further recieving no reply then that might be the case. Although I'll also try from my Electrical Engineer id. But that is also in b an.
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GAMIR3DH, 30 Aug 2022You don't seem to know anything about computers. Peop... moreI know a lot had commodore 64 when it was brand new since then i am computer enthusiasit.
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Hemedans, 30 Aug 2022I have i7 4790 and it can do most work just fine including ... moreDepends oon what you call gaming.
Diablo 1, Starcraft 1, first version of counter strike is no loger gaming.
Running doom eternal on that wouldnt run even menu of the game .About running the game without lagg and to not burn GPU to crisps you can only dream about.
Having Lenovo Legion laptop for 2000 euros bought 22.9.2021 and it can outrun anything on full 4K resolution and Ultra Pro Max details.
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Anonymous, 30 Aug 2022I have an 11 year old desktop with an AMD A8 that still run... moreWell yes long time ago had desktop PC which lasted 10 years then i sold it. Since 2008 using laptops my first HP lasted like 6 years. My second ASUS is still working but sold it to my neighbour for a friendly price 1/4 of original price which was over 1000 euros for a gaming laptop.
Now using Lenovo for 2000 euros. Next month will be one year old still working like a brand new. Every game i played at maxuimum 4K resolution and ultra details going pretty well.
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Anonymous, 30 Aug 2022the hell are you talking aboutAbout this.
Copied from the article. Support up to 2025 the noone cares what will happen. Bit a lot of money for something which will probably not work much longer after end of support.
Together with the new platform and chipsets, the Ryzen 7000 processors will support both DDR5 memory as well as PCI Express 5.0. Unlike Intel, however, AMD is going all-in on DDR5, which means there will be no DDR4 memory support on the AM5 platform.
The AM5 platform will support the company's new EXPO technology, which is essentially AMD's version of Intel's XMP. It's a one-click overclocking solution for memory and is what AMD processors will be using going forward instead of XMP. By default, the Ryzen 7000 CPUs support memory speeds of up to DDR5 5200MHz but higher speeds can be enabled using EXPO.
One of the most impressive aspects of the AM4 platform was its longevity. AMD is promising platform support through 2025+ for AM5, which means you can expect current AM5 motherboards to be supported at least till 2025.
Copied from the article. Support up to 2025 the noone cares what will happen. Bit a lot of money for something which will probably not work much longer after end of support.
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Anonymous, 30 Aug 2022Dude you have problem surely! Without any doubt. Do you hav... moreGracemont cores and their derivatives are entirely incapable of doing AVX512 instructions. Full stop. I don’t know why you keep writing paragraphs of incoherent nonsense throwing words like ALU and registers around when they are entirely meaningless. It can’t do AVX512 on E cores. At all. Stop beating this decomposed horse.
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SShock, 30 Aug 2022That's not entirely true for Alder Lake as it does hav... moreDude you have problem surely! Without any doubt. Do you have reading comprehension problem? I think so. I clearly explained how avx512 works on different microarchitectures for both p and e cores. Do even have single idea that how avx512 works? And before knowing about that do you even know how ALU works and what it has relation with avx512? How that data reach to ALU? What cpu level 1 arc and level 2 arc memories have to do with it? And why cpu register is relevant here? Why the name ended up being 512? And how these related to Golden Cove and Gracemont microarchitectures?
Why you're just babbling with same childish talk like they support it or not without providing any single facts and engineering aspect. If you know these all about then come to argue other than just embarrassing yourself.
You're just messing up with an prominent electrical engineering who has major in microprocessor and solid state device.
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Conderio, 30 Aug 2022You are totally wrong! Intel has officially fused off avx 5... moreThat's not entirely true for Alder Lake as it does have AVX-512 support, but only on P cores and there is no logic to automatically differentiate AVX-512 capability between P and E cores. Meaning if you try to feed AVX-512 instructions to E cores, weird things might happen. And you certainly can't execute AVX-512 code across P and E cores at the same time. You need to turn off E cores entirely so only P cores are exposed to AVX-512 code. Which is officially not supported by Intel and is down to motherboard manufacturers to allow this. I just don't know why one would buy such high performance processor just to have bunch of cores disabled. It's nonsensical. It's better just buying highest core count 11th Gen from Intel. Might not be that fast per core, but they are still powerhouse CPu's and support AVX-512. This guy is just sperging for absolutely no reason playing some sort of genius because reasons.
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SShock, 30 Aug 2022I'm sure you're best buddy with everyone, especia... moreSurely I'm good friend with many people. Roman helped to contact with a local networking farm. And you're just lucky for debating with one of Micron main engineer lol. You're not even fully informed now and every time come with words which contradict with your original comment lol. Like you said avx512 don't support for their new gen cpu, but now saying that they don't support for any hybrid cpu officially which is half true. As I already explained how that works. That is their statement is half dead by then. Cause they have non hybrid cpu as well with half lineups. And with bit of tweek from uefi bios. Any one can enables for hybrid cpu.
And I'm not talking about if it was useful for consumers market or not. I'm just pointing out where you were wrong. Then talking about education, you went to evan a community college?
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Anonymous , 30 Aug 2022You didn't do any homework before making the comment. ... moreYou are totally wrong! Intel has officially fused off avx 512 physically and avx 512 was never supposed to be on consumer cpus. It was only meant for xeons.
Here is source and there are tons of out there.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-nukes-alder-lake-avx-512-now-fuses-it-off-in-silicon
Please stop embrassing yourself in public with half baked x86 arch knowledge...
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Basically a good zen3 refresh, AMDs laptops next year will be as fast as current workstations, Intel is far behind
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Anonymous, 30 Aug 2022Roman my German fella. I had good relationship with him. I ... moreI'm sure you're best buddy with everyone, especially with Roman. I also don't know what you're babbling about "not being informed". AVX-512 is NOT officially supported on any current Intel hybrid CPu architecture. That is official Intel's statement. What you're fiddling with cores is entirely up to you and motherboard manufacturers if they even support this. You're incredibly big mouthy about something that's not even officially supported. Also no one but 5 people actually care about AVX-512 in consumer space. It's a frigging non issue. Maybe you should educate yourself a bit...