Google shares gallery with Pixel 7 Pro 30x Super Res Zoom samples
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- AnonD-1026644
- RIC
- 14 Oct 2022
Guys. Relax.
They are just presenting AI capabilities in reconstructing details of digitally zoomed in images.
They are not saying that this will replace your nearly 2-kilogram DSLR and 6-kilogram 600mm f/4 telephoto lens.
But it will definitely replace your back and neck pain with a pocket-sized camera system.
(For those who'll say: "Just use MFT system." Yeah, but the 300mm f/4 still weighs ~1.5 kilograms)
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- Anonymous
- NiE
- 11 Oct 2022
This literally dwarfs iPhones zooming range, iPhone is only better in video recording by 1% to pixel, argue alone!!
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- Anonymous
- n@7
- 11 Oct 2022
Apple had a feature called "Capture outside Frame" several years ago. This was basically the same thing that Google now advertises for zoom levels like 2.5x or 3x. I tested Apple's Capture outside the frame feature in a store a few years ago and it worked quite decent as far as I remember. Definitely not as bad as in these Golden Gate Bridge sample images. But Apple has removed this feature and I haven't tested whether Apple has applied the same algorithms for digital zoom.
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- Anonymous
- n@7
- 10 Oct 2022
Anonymous, 10 Oct 2022No, Google crops the high resolution modes (though maybe no... moreIt's also possible that Google doesn't combine as many frames as some years ago (maybe due to the different processor?).
At least in low light conditions, I know that the 6 Pro occasionally doesn't really combine frames anymore, if you don't use Night Sight. I compared HDR+ raw files with single frame dng files (and also with single frame raw files from cameras that captured the same amount of light) and occasionally there was really no advantage regarding the signal to noise ratio. One explanation could be that they prefer to choose one 3/10s exposure instead of three 1/10s exposures, but this doesn't really explain it because they could combine eight or even ten 1/10s exposures in the past.
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- Anonymous
- n@7
- 10 Oct 2022
rob, 10 Oct 2022It's not pure digital. To be clear, it's 30x tota... moreNo, Google crops the high resolution modes (though maybe not in all light conditions). Therefore, they only need to upscale when you use a higher zoom factor than 10x. They actually even need less upscaling than the S22 Ultra because the S22 Ultra only has 10 megapixels at 230mm, whereas Google can use 12 or 13 megapixels at 230mm.
But due to the Quad Bayer array, due to Google's aggressive noise reduction, due to the smaller focal length of the periscope (should be approximately 19mm whereas the S22 Ultra has 27mm) and due to diffraction, it is possible that the 10x images won't look great. But at least regarding diffraction, the S22 Ultra's 10x camera should have basically no advantage.
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- Anonymous
- n@7
- 10 Oct 2022
Nick Tegrataker, 10 Oct 2022They look pretty awful and I can clearly see that the camer... moreThey already lost something before Levoy left. The Pixel 4 had huge white balance issues, so I bought the Pixel 3a instead. But the white balance of the 3a is much worse than the white balance of the Google Nexus 5x. The Google Nexus 5x in HDR+ On mode (still one of the best phone cameras for wide angle daylight photos) definitely takes better daylight and sunset photos than the 3a and this speaks for itself. The Pixel 6 Pro has a better white balance than the 3a, but it's sometimes still less realistic than the Nexus.
When the Pixel 3 was released, Google's results became artificial due to their machine learning zoom and due to more aggressive (possibly again machine learning) noise reduction.
When the Pixel 6 was released, Google totally cranked up the luminance noise reduction for daylight photos and the color noise reduction for bright low light photos (if you didn't use Night Sight and used the brightness slider instead), even though the new camera hardware captured far more light than before. It makes zero sense.
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- AnonD-731363
- Lfw
- 10 Oct 2022
Anonymous, 10 Oct 2022First, Huawei does not do better, in my experience.
Plus... moreFirst, Huawei does not do better, in my experience.
Plus, Huawei doesn't have Google's apps and it's useless for secure transactions outside of China. And I wouldn't have it for free, because it's a company with CCP ties.
Well had Huawei and honestly can say its better and it always was.
Second Huawei without USA spyware is better than Huawei with USA Spyware like google and rest.
Lastly those CCP ties were USA lies to make Huawei Fraud.
Honestly regardless of a brand the very first time you run a setup you must agree with terms and conditions of the company.
And once you do they got you.
This is something you cant skip and wont allows you to continue first time setup your phone. Once you do you have no idea which data and where are sent and how they will use them.
Words and promises are spoken but bread is always eaten.
End of story.
By the way did i mention USA spying is worse than spying from so called fraud Huawei which hasnt been ever proven???
USA Inteligence centre build in Utah deserts many years ago says opposite of your claims.
They spy everywhere.
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- Frank
- nFF
- 10 Oct 2022
Ivo., 08 Oct 2022No 10x zoom camera - dead on arrival! No "super res zo... moreBy that logic most phones are DoA. It's still a decent showing that will probably improve a little over time. Is it competing with the S22 ultra? Up to about 20x, yes. After that? Not close. Neither are particularly great quality above 20x though (S22 ultra is more useable but still terrible if cropped).
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- djsat2
- x24
- 10 Oct 2022
It's cool, my S22 Ultra does a similar job. But regardless of manufacturer at the max zoom they always look a bit...well sh!t ;)
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- Anonymous
- MnN
- 10 Oct 2022
AnonD-731363, 09 Oct 2022Huawei with its new tricks which their camera does is a lot... moreFirst, Huawei does not do better, in my experience.
Plus, Huawei doesn't have Google's apps and it's useless for secure transactions outside of China. And I wouldn't have it for free, because it's a company with CCP ties.
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- yloeb
- 6X%
- 10 Oct 2022
Anonymous, 09 Oct 2022The Zs70 has even a slightly higher angular resolution than... moreyeah, just felt it is a mote balanced phone because of the one inche sensor especially at day light
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- yloeb
- 6X%
- 10 Oct 2022
oh c'mon, too many people here complaining but not even the oppo find x5 pro which launched at a higher price or the similarly priced xiaomi 12 pro can do that
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- Nick Tegrataker
- Xpf
- 10 Oct 2022
They look pretty awful and I can clearly see that the camera tried to merge images from the wide angle and the telephoto lenses to make the centre of the frame sharper than the rest, which clearly isn't working on the second sample of the bridge shot. Google lost their touch since Mark Levoy had left.
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- rob
- w0$
- 10 Oct 2022
ishreal, 09 Oct 2022Huawei P30 Pro still has better zoom than whatever Google p... moreIt's not pure digital. To be clear, it's 30x total, 5x of which is optical. Digital starts there, meaning the digital magnification is technically 6x (5*6=30).
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- ishreal
- qKM
- 09 Oct 2022
Huawei P30 Pro still has better zoom than whatever Google pushes out with ai upscale and crop. Not bad for pure digital though.
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- Ivansmash
- gLB
- 09 Oct 2022
I pre-ordered the pixel 7 pro but there is no other way to put it. The 30x zoom is shayt. Even the 20x is pathetic.
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- Anonymous
- nDg
- 09 Oct 2022
It's not that impressive...
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- AnonD-731363
- Lfw
- 09 Oct 2022
Huawei with its new tricks which their camera does is a lot better,
THey always was and no overpriced Google will change that fact.
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- 7km
- 09 Oct 2022
google is the "cheapest costliest thing". utility zero, only propaganda
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- Anonymous
- MnN
- 09 Oct 2022
It's impressive.
I am not sure it's better than the Pixel 6 Pro though because the bump in zoom level is achieved by the crop of the slightly smaller sensor in the P7P (1/2.55) compared to the P6P's 1/2.5 sensor.