Nvidia suspends RTX 4080 12GB launch over naming kerfuffle
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- Sin
- pJw
- 01 Nov 2022
The GPU market is insane gamers are really getting cheated by the manufacturers and game developers
What happened too Morse law that said adjusted for modern age
Was technology gets twice as powerful & half the price ever 4 years
For sure GPUs are getting more powerful cheap ?? In your dreams
What has happened is we have the flagship gtx 1080ti then after this GPU was made Nvidia just been adding more expensive flagship tier GPUs at even higher price tags so we have super flagship price GPUs
The system requirements for games made today are stupidity high
4k 120hz basically the standard today
So many high end Monitors
No hope of running games at them Res of the monitor being made today even the rtx 4090ti will struggle with cyberpunk 2077 too get 4k 120fps
But price so sky high
The worsened part is game developers don't care about people with old GPUs and can't afford too upgrade and don't have flagship GPU
Not sure why rtx 4080 naming matter all that much
Was thinking there was going too be a rtx 4080 & 4080ti but whatever
Rip budget gamers
Gaming only for the rich
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- Anonymous
- tha
- 20 Oct 2022
Anonymous, 17 Oct 2022"one can't help but feel bad for all the Nvidia b... moreThe AIBs have absolutely nothing to do with Nvidia's BS. Or are you actually insinuating that they should've went ahead first and labeled the packaging/GPUs themselves with something like "Not-a-3080" or "Maybe-a-3070" or something? Think, random commenter, think!
If anything, that scumbag of a company should've covered all of the relabeling costs if it does really wanna show that it's sincere with correcting its mistake.
The only mistake that the AIBs made was probably not refusing to get bent over by Ngreedia, in which case, EVGA did and I applaud it for doing so.
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- Anonym
- Mbu
- 18 Oct 2022
Just wait for relaunch with name 4070 12GB at same price USD 800. :-P
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- Anonymous
- 70d
- 17 Oct 2022
Anonymous, 17 Oct 2022"one can't help but feel bad for all the Nvidia b... moreIt's not their fault.
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- Anonymous
- GXs
- 17 Oct 2022
"one can't help but feel bad for all the Nvidia board partners, who would have been in late stages of manufacturing, packaging, and marketing the RTX 4080 12GB"
Feel bad? They deserved it if they put "RTX 4080" on the package
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- Anonymous
- sUS
- 16 Oct 2022
James, 16 Oct 2022Im happy with my gtx 970,no need to buy any 3000 or 4000 se... moreNvidia caters to the non gaming market now like datacenters and crypto miners. Gamers' wallets have no say here unfortunately.
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- Anonymous
- g5h
- 16 Oct 2022
This isn’t a huge win. The 4080 16GB is still extremely overpriced compared to last gens MSRP
- Kangal
- vJt
- 16 Oct 2022
Kangal, 16 Oct 2022Some people here are confused.
Based on the chipset name w... moreBased on this we can see a trends happening, especially when it comes to price:
9-series* -> 10-series = average +12% price difference (-30% min, max +50%)
10-series -> 16-series = average +16% price difference (+11% min, max +21%)
10-series -> 20-series = average +54% price difference (+32% min, max +109%)
20-series -> 30-series = average +5% price difference (-20% min, max +22%)
30-series -> 40-series = average +43% price difference (+8% min, max +69%)
Averages of averages: -1% min, +26% ave, +55% max = Overall price trend per generation
*yes, I went back and calculated the Maxwell series (GTX-900) as well.
That's OVER EIGHT YEARS of data calculated for your enjoyment. I haven't included data for inflation or flash/wafer prices as these do fluctuate with several factors, and it may have a "skew" effect on the rough data.
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edit: I should've put this data into my original comment, but if anyone is interested, here's the missing ones:
100% - $1000 : GM-200-400 _3072 = 9-GTX Titan X
_92% - $650 : GM-200-200 _2816 = GTX980Ti
_67% - $550 : GM-204-300 _2048 = GTX980
_54% - $330 : GM-204-200 _1664 = GTX970
_33% - $200 : GM-206-400 _1024 = GTX960
_25% - $160 : GM-206-250 _ 768 = GTX950
_21% - $130 : GM-206-200 _ 640 = GTX750Ti
_17% - $100 : GM-206-100 _ 512 = GTX700
- Kangal
- vJt
- 16 Oct 2022
Some people here are confused.
Based on the chipset name we can tell what is what. The first-two letters tells the generation (higher is newer), after the hyphen the second digits tells the class (lower is better), and after another hyphen the third digits tell its tier (higher is better). But what you really should be judging it by is the number of cores the chipset has, and comparing it to the maximum of that generation.
See below:
(_% of Max Shaders - MSRP Price : Chipset Name ~ Shader Cores = Name of GPU Card)
100% - $1200 : GP-102-450 _3840 = 10-Titan Xp
100% - $2000 : GA-102-350 _10752 ======= RTX 3090 Ti
100% - $2500 : TU-102-400 _4608 ==== 20-Titan RTX
~98% - $1500 : GA-102-300 _10496 ======= RTX 3090
~97% - $1600 : AD-102-300 _16384 =========== RTX 4090
~95% - $1200 : GA-102-250 _10240 ======= RTX 3080 Ti
~94% - $1000 : TU-102-300 _4352 ==== RTX 2080 Ti
~93% - $700 : GP-102-350 _3584 = GTX 1080Ti
~81% - $700 : GA-102-200 _8704 ======= RTX 3080
~80% - $1200 : AD-103-300 _9728 ========= RTX 4080
~67% - $600 : GP-104-410 _ 2560 = GTX 1080
~67% - $800 : TU-104-450 _ 3072 ==== RTX 2080-S
~64% - $700 : TU-104-410 _ 2944 ==== RTX 2080
~63% - $450 : GP-104-300 _ 2432 = GTX 1070Ti
~58% - $900 : AD-104-400 _ 7680 =========== RTX 4080-12GB
~57% - $600 : GA-104-400 _ 6144 ======= RTX 3070 Ti
~56% - $600 : TU-104-400 _ 2560 ==== RTX 2070-S
~55% - $500 : GA-104-300 _ 5888 ======= RTX 3070
~50% - $380 : GP-104-200 _ 1920 = GTX 1070
~50% - $500 : TU-106-410 _ 2304 ==== RTX 2070
~47% - $400 : TU-106-400 _ 2176 ==== RTX 2060-S
~45% - $400 : GA-104-200 _ 4864 ======= RTX 3060 Ti
~42% - $350 : TU-106-200 _ 1920 ==== RTX 2060
~33% - $250 : GP-106-410 _ 1280 = GTX 1060Ti*
~33% - $280 : TU-116-400 _ 1536 === GTX 1660Ti
~33% - $330 : GA-106-300 _ 3584 ======= RTX 3060
~31% - $230 : TU-116-300 _ 1440 === GTX 1660-S
~30% - $200 : GP-106-300 _ 1152 = GTX 1060
~30% - $220 : TU-116-200 _ 1408 === GTX 1660
~28% - $160 : TU-116-300 _ 1280 === GTX 1650-S
~24% - $250 : GA-106-150 _ 2560 ======= RTX 3050
~20% - $140 : GP-107-400 _ 768 = GTX 1050Ti
~17% - $110 : GP-107-300 _ 640 = GTX 1050
~11% - $150 : TU-117-300 _ 896 === GTX 1650
* GTX 1060 Ti, is just a nickname for the enhanced 6GB model with 9Gbps memory.
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- Anonymous
- ndp
- 16 Oct 2022
Anonymous, 16 Oct 2022You can play it using a $600 card as well. The $1200 one gi... moreNo it doesnt give ypu higher level of detail
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- Anonymous
- 6Ug
- 16 Oct 2022
Reminds me of the time when Nvidia released the GT 1030 series cards in two flavours. Those were first released with GDDR4 RAM, but Nvidia quietly released a GDDR3 variant which was noticably slower in performance in all aspects. Unless people were specifically looking for RAM specifications, people were paying the same price for the 3 as the 4. Nvidia borked up again, but at a far higher price point / class of GPU which made the media notice and force Nvidia to u-turn like they have. About time too.
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- Anonymous
- JFi
- 16 Oct 2022
Anonymous, 16 Oct 2022The 3000 series are starting to flood the market due to the... more3000 series have fallen off a cliff way before because of the alleviation of the production lines. That's why commodity prices have been falling off a cliff since May-June basically.
Also prices went (way) up long before mining was profitable for laymen.
This time around mining was merely one more reason for the high prices , not the main one (unlike 2017 where there were no issues in the production lines).
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- Anonymous
- JFi
- 16 Oct 2022
rizki1, 15 Oct 2022$1200 graphic card to play Cyberpunk at 4K? why not cheaper PS5?You can play it using a $600 card as well. The $1200 one gives you (way) higher level of detail and FPS.
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- Anonymous
- R5v
- 16 Oct 2022
Anonymous, 16 Oct 2022They will call it the 4070ti, slightly lower the price and ... moreThe 3000 series are starting to flood the market due to the fall of mining. So I think gamers who dont really spend too much will focus on those than on the newer once that will mainly be bought by folks with big wallets or do multiple stuff like streaming, video editing, gaming, developing, etc.
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- Anonymous
- R5v
- 16 Oct 2022
Anonymous, 16 Oct 2022Haha, this generation of consoles is still going with the 3... moreAnd I dont think we will see them releasing a refreshed improved version soon due to high inflation & scarcity of resources with the ongoing conflict that started by you know who.
Thats probably one of the reasons why ngreedia overpriced their products & maybe amd aswell once they release their gpus by next year.
- prasad-gsma
- g3$
- 16 Oct 2022
Mapantz, 15 Oct 2022But they have the same CUDA cores, only a difference in mem... moreThey have different CUDA core count (8960 vs 8704) and different memory interface.
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- Anonymous
- pWD
- 16 Oct 2022
Conderio, 16 Oct 2022You know that new gen console play games at either 1080p 12... moreHaha, this generation of consoles is still going with the 30 FPS offerings? That's just nonsense. Way too low FPS.
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- James
- d%w
- 16 Oct 2022
Im happy with my gtx 970,no need to buy any 3000 or 4000 series since prices are just insane. Even gaming monitors are rip off. Just dont buy guys,let it rot. At the end of the day if you purchased one,you didnt win,its nvidia. They ripped you off and you dont have game to fully utilize your hardware. If game developers develop a game for such a hardware then its a loss for them,because only few people will buy their game because simply older hardware doesnt support it/cant handle it. Forget about nvidia,this company is a history for me. Spend you time with your family and not in front of a pc,spending thousands and wasting time.
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- Anonymous
- sUS
- 16 Oct 2022
They will call it the 4070ti, slightly lower the price and the gamers who whined before will still buy it instead of voting with their wallet.