Samsung W23 and W23 Flip unveiled: fancier Z Fold4 and Z Flip4 for China Telecom

21 October 2022
This is the first time there is a Flip variant of the W phones - well, the first time since the older clamshell models in the pre-foldable days.

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K, 23 Oct 2022Do you know of anyone who has used the flip or even fold fo... moreI have used second-hand Fold 1 [2.5 years old], in pristine condition for 4-5 months. And I sold it for S21 ultra. Camera and S Pen were most important thing for me.

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    Darknoor, 23 Oct 2022Xiaomi's premium phones feel super high quality that I... moreSoftware support -
    Xiaomi: oops...

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      • 24 Oct 2022

      AnonD-731363, 23 Oct 2022Man since when Samsung in terms is a premium phone??? Its ... moreLol

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        • 23 Oct 2022

        mooox, 23 Oct 2022Think you don't understand the concept of premium devi... moreThink you don't understand the concept of premium devices, or the rich in China.
        Man i do but we can agree for China Telcom the W series are like premium because they wouldnt afford russian caviar brand nor Vertu which is a lot better device in terms of premium.

        Edit: Oh yes, for the young and rich in China, there is only 1 premium phone that they use: Apple. If you're not using the latest iPhone on the day of launch, you're not in the correct social group. They may have a few phones at the same time, but... it's always the iPhone that they use...
        And of course this is bad idea. Apple aint premium it never was and making cheap and sell for expensive anyone can do that. In this terms even Sony is more premium than Apple.
        But as i said before only ever existed premium brand is Vertu and if chinese cant afford Vertu they dont have premium brand.
        Calling Apple a premium is like sayingg money grow on the trees which is a lie.
        Many phone brands top flagships are expensive nowdays but if something is really costly it does not means it is the premium,
        Even Huawei Mate 50 RS is more premium than apple because of Leather finnish and several other features apple will never have or use.

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          AnonD-731363, 23 Oct 2022Man since when Samsung in terms is a premium phone??? Its ... moreThink you don't understand the concept of premium devices, or the rich in China.

          The rich will buy a few of the most expensive variants to show others that they can afford beyond a "commoner's common sense". For example, buying 12 $14k Apple Watch Editions to put on 2 paws of his dog.

          It's common to hear "I have so much money that I cannot finish spending it in a few lifetimes. I can buy that (over priced rubbish) and it doesn't even make a rounding figure in my bank statements. (However, I'm glad that I managed to make you notice that I have so much money to spend on frivolous items so I'll buy more things that the poor cannot afford)".

          Edit: Oh yes, for the young and rich in China, there is only 1 premium phone that they use: Apple. If you're not using the latest iPhone on the day of launch, you're not in the correct social group. They may have a few phones at the same time, but... it's always the iPhone that they use...

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            • 23 Oct 2022

            Kike, 22 Oct 2022What are you talking about, Xiaomi is nowhere near in terms... moreMan since when Samsung in terms is a premium phone???
            Its just an overpriced brand like every other starting with Apple and Sony.
            The only premium brand ever existed was Vertu.
            Apart the Vertu all other brands are just more or less costly brands but very far from premium.

            Only tiny exception to this is Caviar which does not make phones on its own but instead buy those gadgets from Samsung, Apple and many else and transforms an average non premium overpriced device into a luxury premium one.
            But compared to Vertu, Caviar not making own phones they buy renew and sell.

            This is what i am talking about.

            And if you put Xiaomi Fold and Samsung Fold to comparison adn will do same with Motorola Fluip and Samsung Flip you will realize for 30% less price you get much more specced device.

            Nowdays having 20 or 25W charging is laughable. Since time is money faster is always better. many else phone specs can be used this way to compare between one and the other.

              Kike, 22 Oct 2022What are you talking about, Xiaomi is nowhere near in terms... moreXiaomi's premium phones feel super high quality that I was so disappointed in the last gen Samsung.
              I love both, I used and owned booth, but I never saw that one coming as in my head I always believed Samsung was always a step ahead.

              Not anymore.

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                • 23 Oct 2022

                Dr. Stephen Strange, 22 Oct 2022I am not much in to aesthetique thing, but flip makes too g... moreDo you know of anyone who has used the flip or even fold for that matter for three years without running into problems?

                  I am not much in to aesthetique thing, but flip makes too good sense, considering the 12 GB ram and 512 GB storage. It is good for longevity of mobile; if you are planning to use for at least 3 years.

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                    • 22 Oct 2022

                    AnonD-731363, 22 Oct 2022No matter how much they try Motorola Flip will always looks... moreWhat are you talking about, Xiaomi is nowhere near in terms of premium phones like not even close.

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                      • 22 Oct 2022

                      Samsung certainly knows how to please their Chinese buyers

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                        • 22 Oct 2022

                        No matter how much they try Motorola Flip will always looks better and Xiaomi fold will always give better specs.

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                          • GBh
                          • 21 Oct 2022

                          The W flip phones from Samsung always looked really cool.

                          I still dont understand why they were China only. They could probably sell those off in South Korea and Japan, too.
                          Even in the USA, some old people would have jumped at them

                            beautiful

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                              • 21 Oct 2022

                              Old wine new bottle

                                better name in my opinion, remind me pre 2010 with bunch of Samsung W series.

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                                  • 21 Oct 2022

                                  Bravo Bravo Bravo