Xiaomi reveals concept phone with a mount for Leica M lenses based on the 12S Ultra

02 November 2022
This is a smartphone/mirrorless camera hybrid that has a second 1" sensor and a mount system for real Leica lenses. 

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  • Anonymous
  • Lkg
  • 02 Nov 2022

Peter-B, 02 Nov 2022I think that's what the adapter is for - to convert th... moreSome lenses are super heavy. Mainly longer telephotos.
Cameras are much thicker, so weight balance is way better.


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    • Rkm
    • ypc
    • 02 Nov 2022

    It's obvious why they are using M mount lenses, but man they are expensive. If I buy this phone (assuming they launch it, which they won't), I will have to look into ttartisans and 7artisans. Even voigtlander m mount lenses are expensive and they all are manual only.

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      • d@8
      • 02 Nov 2022

      Would be awesome if Sony would release an Xperia phone with a naked 1" sensor and also release a standalone version of the rx100/zv-1 lens

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        • Rkm
        • ypc
        • 02 Nov 2022

        Peter-B, 02 Nov 2022I think that's what the adapter is for - to convert th... moreCrop factor indeed will be pretty significant since the sensor is very small. 35mm lens will give an equivalent focal length of around 90mm which will be very narrow for general purpose. But since telephoto is the weakness of mobile phones, it may be a blessing in disguise.

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          • Anonymous
          • 3kx
          • 02 Nov 2022

          hmm, 02 Nov 2022Interesting but how will it attach to it in this form ? It ... moreDude there is a ring like all cameras..

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            • Anonymous
            • GM0
            • 02 Nov 2022

            NickValok, 02 Nov 2022It's better to just carry a separate professional came... moreThe phone can point and shoot so you don't need to carry the lenes with you everyday as same as normal people don't have DSLR with them all the time. With this concept it will take photos far better than your iphone.

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              • Anonymous
              • YUU
              • 02 Nov 2022

              WTF!? will it be the same as having a DSLR or Mirrorless?? 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ What the point having to bring an extra lens? Just use DSLR 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

                It's better to just carry a separate professional camera than to carry something like this, the results of the photos on the smartphone are not as good as the real camera at all the time.
                Users only use smartphone cameras to take snapshots and share them easily on social media, so they don't want to put on such a nuisance

                  Ah yes, Sony QX series all over again! I'd be so happy to see that concept coming back. It offers the flexibility of using proper DSLR or Mirrorless camera lens on an existing smartphone body, and I love that idea a lot!

                  But then again, this idea of Android-powered camera isn't new since Yongnuo had made one since 2019 with the most recent model launched last year*.

                  *https://petapixel.com/2021/07/10/yongnuo-yn455-a-new-android-powered-m43-mirrorless-camera/

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                    • Anonymous
                    • u7V
                    • 02 Nov 2022

                    now this is really a game changers

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                      • Anonymous
                      • x0k
                      • 02 Nov 2022

                      hmm, 02 Nov 2022Interesting but how will it attach to it in this form ? It ... moreIt looks like there are notches on the metal ring that the lens twists onto

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                        • Anonymous
                        • 58Z
                        • 02 Nov 2022

                        No idea how the weight is managed tho, the lense is going to tip the setup over and make this not only weird to use, but an expensive disaster waiting to happen as well.

                        Just buy a pro camera if you want to use pro lenses.

                          YES, YES, YES !!!
                          This is what I've been advocating for. The phone should be able to quickly grab some great photos on Auto Mode like an iPhone when you're out and about. That's great for general life stuff as an Amateur Point'n'Shoot. But if you want to take it to the next level, you can slap on a professional lens, and use the Manual Mode. Then spend several minutes preparing and taking Professional Shots. And it should come with several options from 360', Fish Eye, Ultrawide, Zoom, Long-range Telescopic, and Macro.

                          You do NOT need to compromise in one area (Auto Mode/Amateur), to make improvements in another area (Manual Mode/Professional).

                            Anonymous, 02 Nov 2022In the end , it would not work unless proper lenses for 1&q... moreI think that's what the adapter is for - to convert the M mount lens to something usable on the 1" sensor. There will probably be some crop factor involved, but there's no info on that.

                            Also, Xiaomi specifically notes that the frame of the phone has been reinforced to account for the lens mount.

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                              • m2J
                              • 02 Nov 2022

                              Interesting but how will it attach to it in this form ? It be weird when you need to hold it and then get blur-fest. How well this lens will attach to the phone with magnets ? It's pretty big

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                                • Kxb
                                • 02 Nov 2022

                                Nice

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • Lkg
                                  • 02 Nov 2022

                                  In the end , it would not work unless proper lenses for 1" are used.
                                  Huge lenses for FF cameras on phones would be too heavy and break the mount.
                                  It can happen to cameras, despite being too rare.

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                                    • Codedslam
                                    • mFd
                                    • 02 Nov 2022

                                    Lemme See The Full Spec Before I Can Think Of Buying!!