Apple's 3nm chips kick off mass production next week at TSMC
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- 26 Dec 2022
Rotciv Ikias, 26 Dec 2022TSMC is the company that just keeps giving and it feels lik... moreActually we don't know how 3nm fares. 5nm TSCM was as brilliant and ahead of times as Intel 14nm ages ago. I doubt 3nm will be as good, more probably it will be only tad better than 4nm.
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blue, 26 Dec 2022And why exactly should they do it?The EU is forcing them.
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Anonymous, 26 Dec 2022Nobody cares about any of that. It's processors that m... moreMicrosoft was and always be the top of the game, consider any device today is dependent on its creation. To make VIOP calls is the extremest of all, nowadays phone can't even push a short message.
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Rotciv Ikias, 26 Dec 2022That's not true I‘d like to believe so but from the sources I‘ve seen, it has worse efficiency. It seems like the chip is pushed harder with more power than the M1. If you have any sources to refute that, I’d be happy to see them.
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I‘m excited for 3nm to move the tech world forward
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autocascading, 26 Dec 2022Will be great when they are forced to open up their software.And why exactly should they do it?
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Asd, 26 Dec 2022Ban wins, no competition to appleBan? Seriously?
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Kums100, 26 Dec 2022Lol? You clearly have no clue, Processors may be a tad bett... moreNobody cares about any of that. It's processors that move the world forwards. The rest are stuck to Qualcomms tyranny which is both unwilling and unable to compete with Apple. They remind me of Intel (Qualcomm does). A company both unwilling and unable to move with the times for 20 long years (completely missed the mobile revolution, kept increasing their chips' speed by 5% for the longest time, until they were forced to actually start increasing it faster)...
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SamsungRules, 26 Dec 2022Apple is having a home-run, no company seems to catch up. i... moreWill be great when they are forced to open up their software.
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- 26 Dec 2022
"3nm"...
From 22nm and down no identifiable component of those chips have been anywhere close to the node written. They are just telling us that they found new and better methods to up the chip density (none of which include shrinking any particular component to 3nm or anything close to that).
Maybe, one day, we would be able to legit make 3nm chips, I mostly doubt it though because it would hardly matter (the name of the game is and should be "chip density", not how small the smallest component is)...
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- 26 Dec 2022
Universe is scaling up more transistor doesn't translate to faster but clock speed does which it is why one needs metallurgy expertise, to get the fastest clk(clock, it's used for encryption and decipher, bit count i.e32, 64, 96). TSMC doesn't have that, the chip they are trying to make i believe A15 , can't be reverse engineered, PCB and below usually can't be done
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Invictus77, 26 Dec 2022Macbook pro on 3nm is going to be a spaceship among laptops 🛸That hardly anyone buys, people buy Lenovo, Dell, Asus, and maybe, just maybe HP a 700 dollar laptop, not a 2,000 to do what you do in the 700/1000 dollar
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Kums100, 26 Dec 2022Lol? You clearly have no clue, Processors may be a tad bett... moreEven processor, When M1 come out it was better than 11th gen and Zen 3 but when 12th gen come out and zen 4 Apple is only better in Efficient, perfomance wise it cant compete with top cpu from Intel/Amd.
And even Gpu Qualcomm surpassed them with Adreno 740 efficiency wise, you get GtX 1050 level of perfomance with just 7W power usage.
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Rotciv Ikias, 26 Dec 2022That's not true there you go
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-M2-SoC-Analysis-Worse-CPU-efficiency-compared-to-the-M1.637834.0.html
and plenty of test shows M2 hitting 100 Centigrade heat if you want i can link videos too.
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- 26 Dec 2022
SamsungRules, 26 Dec 2022Apple is having a home-run, no company seems to catch up. i... moreLol? You clearly have no clue, Processors may be a tad better than competition, but display-wise, camera-wise and other stuff the competition is really pushing the leap.
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SamsungRules, 26 Dec 2022Apple is having a home-run, no company seems to catch up. i... moreBan wins, no competition to apple
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Apple is having a home-run, no company seems to catch up. its Sad, the rest of the tech industry is just dead and boring Apple is where it's at
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Hemedans, 26 Dec 2022it make sense because M2 is worse efficiency wise, they nee... moreThat's not true
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TSMC is the company that just keeps giving and it feels like it has no competition
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it make sense because M2 is worse efficiency wise, they need node advantage to make it run cooler