Report: the US is tightening export restrictions to Huawei, targeting 4G and Wi-Fi 6 tech

31 January 2023
As well as tech used for semiconductor manufacturing, AI and high-performance and cloud computing. 

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  • 14 Feb 2023

I just want healthy competition if arms race
Or healthy cooperation if no arms race

I just hope the consumer wins no matter what happens and the out come
and not a big greedy tech companies

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    • Sin
    • 3Hq
    • 14 Feb 2023

    I just hope if there is a tech arms race happens

    That the customers benefit from the choice of either premium western brands with soc but overpriced

    Or import cheap & cheerful from China
    And get bargain on there Chinese made crappy soc

    I really hope the customers benefit from who ever wins
    I really hope taxes and customs clearance don't come a problem

    If arms race it is I just hope they fight it out with each other but let the customers choice the winner with buying choices and freedom

    I really hope all phone brand choices stay available

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      • bharat singh
      • IWR
      • 07 Feb 2023

      95% of Electronic devices are manufactured in there with low price with different build quality.
      Still we are using their phones and internet devices (4G , 5G routers) because their devices are available in global market with low price

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        • KUKANG
        • 6cm
        • 02 Feb 2023

        Nick Tegrataker, 01 Feb 2023https://www.computerworld.com/article/3682144/apple-acceler... moreit's good but still it's a little late because China already "stole" knowledge and technology from western companies that are there

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          • Anonymous
          • xLj
          • 01 Feb 2023

          BlahBlah, 01 Feb 2023Sure, Huawei has indeed invested the most in 5G, but how di... more👆

            The noose is getting tighter and tighter...

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              • BlahBlah
              • LiQ
              • 01 Feb 2023

              Nick Tegrataker, 01 Feb 2023Hmm, so is that why Samsung recently made a cross-licensing... moreSure, Huawei has indeed invested the most in 5G, but how did they get there? Search in your browser where was Huawei before it got connected with Cisco. Yeah, they were nowhere but suddenly after Cisco patent case their light bulb suddenly turned on. Not suspicious at all, right? I know it's easy to hate the States but do you really believe Huawei (networking) is innocent? I loved Huawei mobile division which has nothing to do with their main bussiness and I loved their phones but their main bussiness was/is a shady as any western was/is with the only difference that China is our political enemy. I'm saying "our" because I'm from Europe, EU to be exact, so the States are our political allies and China is most deffinitley not.

              Also, everybody here mentioning how almost everything is being made in China, okay. But who invested in those factories in the first place? You think it's China? No! China only offered their mega cheap and almost free labor which both sides western and eastern used to the same extent with the biggest difference in marketing. Also, even without marketing side China has advantageas they have all in one country which is lowering the costs of logistics, human resources and supply chains.

              Xiaomi or Redmi are cheaper than Samsung? Not surprised at all. Why? When did you last time see an ad for Xiaomi or Redmi or Poco device? What about other Chinese brands? Nothing. Only Huawei played that game. And now just Samsung and Apple, those are the only brands that I see making big ads practically everywhere. And they are the most expensive ones. Wonder why... Yeah marketing cost a tone. Nobody does so much of marketing like these two brands, that's why they're a bit pricier then others. Google tried to be a little bit agressive with adds with their Pixel series 7 but they're not sold globaly which sucks.

              Nothing is only black and white, especially with things connected with politics which in this case of USA and Huawei is very prominent.

              Cheers!

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                • blue
                • SXw
                • 01 Feb 2023

                Anonymous, 01 Feb 2023Im just stating logic & reality, if you are blind by yo... moreLogic and reality were nowhere near your posts.

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                  • Anonymous
                  • tEZ
                  • 01 Feb 2023

                  Anonymous, 01 Feb 2023Well they provide cheap labor for those overpriced western ... morehey at least they have their own HSR but in their dream🤣

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                    • Sin
                    • 3Hq
                    • 01 Feb 2023

                    If the semiconductor industry gets up and running and up too speed it China be unstoppable

                    Huawei looks pretty much done for though as this brand always focus on high end something that only us technology can do

                    Sub optimal strategy for China too focus on being premium

                    China good at making cheap phone but that's about it

                      blue, 01 Feb 2023All they still keep doing is stealing technology and not pa... moreHmm, so is that why Samsung recently made a cross-licensing agreement with Huawei so that they can access 5G patents and technologies Huawei owns? 🙄

                        blue, 01 Feb 2023Apple also has to produce their phones using local factorie... morehttps://www.computerworld.com/article/3682144/apple-accelerates-plans-to-move-more-manufacturing-out-of-china.html

                        Apple is moving out iPhone and Mac productions of China, yet I don't see them getting banned :)

                          The Mobile market is getting worse.

                          Xiaomi subsidiaries sanctioned by China and India. Xiaomi also decides to remove SD Card Slots,Headphone Jack in Midranger Market and downgrades every Ultrawide in their lineup except for Flagships.
                          LG and Blackberry is gone.
                          Huawei still getting sanctioned by USA. Huawei and Honor has cutting cost on the specifications in their mobile phones.
                          Sharp is completely Japan exclusive.
                          TCL leaves the Midranger market.
                          Sony still very niche, the only full function flagship segment phones that still has radio, SD Card Slot, Headphone Jack. Also still expensive af.
                          Samsung couldn't develop cool enough and less battery draining Flagship Chipsets.
                          Motorola, Tecno and Nubia Redmagic doesn't upgrade their Update Policies.
                          Realme downgrades their lineup except for Chipset.
                          Nokia exits Upper Midrange and Flagship Market for good.
                          Black Shark is bankrupt due to China Sanctions.
                          Oneplus phones and Google Pixel durability is questionable now and Oxygen OS seems lackluster than before.
                          Oppo still expensive af for their specs outside China and India.
                          Foldables from all brands still expensive af.

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                            • Anonymous
                            • t7Z
                            • 01 Feb 2023

                            blue, 01 Feb 2023You really try hard, I admit. But no matter how hard, you s... moreIm just stating logic & reality, if you are blind by your shilling with western proganda then good for you! 🤣

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                              • blue
                              • SXw
                              • 01 Feb 2023

                              Anonymous, 01 Feb 2023Well they provide cheap labor for those overpriced western ... moreYou really try hard, I admit. But no matter how hard, you still talk chinese propaganda.

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                                • Anonymous
                                • t7Z
                                • 01 Feb 2023

                                blue, 01 Feb 2023All they still keep doing is stealing technology and not pa... moreWell they provide cheap labor for those overpriced western products that is 2x-3x the price of its production cost.

                                Also I doubt its about stealing or not paying royalties since they should have a signed agreement on it else said company wouldnt made a deal with them in the first place if they are at a disadvantage right? So its all pure excuses for propaganda purposes!

                                Their products are cheap because they are the largest manufacturing hub in the world! Huge population so cheaper labor!

                                The aren't competitive? No wonder they got banned by uncle sam for it! 🤣

                                Dont make me laugh! They dont develop themselves? No wonder they arent able to launch satellites in outerspace or even made their own Space Station recently. 🤣

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                                  • blue
                                  • SXw
                                  • 01 Feb 2023

                                  Nick Tegrataker, 01 Feb 2023It's quite ironic that you're saying this right a... moreApple also has to produce their phones using local factories. China would not allow them to import phones made elsewhere.

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                                    • blue
                                    • SXw
                                    • 01 Feb 2023

                                    Anonymous, 01 Feb 2023Well, they already have the know how after many decades bei... moreAll they still keep doing is stealing technology and not paying royalties for it. That's why their phones are cheap on local market but incompetitive on western markets. They don't develop anything by themselves, without western companies they are doomed.

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