Honor unveils the first silicon-carbon battery with 12.8% higher energy density

27 February 2023
This is compared to a standard lithium battery that uses a graphite anode and has the same physical size.

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Anonymous, 03 Mar 2023Stop saying nonsense and USE YOUR BRAIN. Phones are far ... moreYou're the one not using your brain. I'm talking about physical size of the battery, not the size of the device. I have taken these devices apart and am referring to the PHYSICAL MESUREMENTS of the batteries. in terms of PHYSICAL MESUREMENTS.
The note 3's battery measures at 80x53x5mm
that's an area of 21,200mm3
divide that by 3,200mAh, that's 1mAh per 6.625mm3, or 0.15mAh per mm3

now, the s23 ultra's battery measures at 60x74x5mm
that's an area of 22,200mm3
divide that by 5,000mAh, which gives you 1mAh per 4.44mm3, or 0.225mAh per mm3
the s23 ultra has a battery that's about 50% more dense than the note 3's battery


so why don't you use your brain, you dingus

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    Anonymous, 28 Feb 2023I will appreciate more if someone makes a new flagship phon... moreI follow a company on Twitter that sells phones with removal batteries

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      • Anonymous
      • pjh
      • 03 Mar 2023

      0odle-noodle, 27 Feb 2023Battery technology has come so far as of recent. I remember... moreStop saying nonsense and USE YOUR BRAIN.

      Phones are far bigger than before *and* phones have far less features than before (no SD card, no Jack, etc). It is normal that they managed to put bigger batteries in them, it is not rocket science.

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        • 02 Mar 2023

        Anonymous, 28 Feb 2023Random brand phone user is actually funnier. They feel t... moreYoure super lame lol.
        Youre literally saying the camera is better than others because their marketing is better.
        I swear to you, being tricked by marketing is not the brag you think it is...
        You would have to understand just a bit about actual cameras, instead of just being a pro in phone camera marketing blabber, to know that their 200MP is horrible compared to if they just bought a 12MP micro 4/3rds and somehow managed to put that on their phone. Would be the best camera on a phone BY FAR. Their hardware doesnt even come close to the 1inch 50MP sensor going around nowadays, which at 50MP is already overkill for such a small sensor.
        This is coming from someone who really likes to take photos and video with mirrorless cameras and previous owner of a Galaxy S6 and currently owning a Tab S8+, which I enjoyed both greatly, so I'm not some Samsung hater, just think it's foolish that someone who talks as biased as you thinks he can educate anyone on the internet about whats actually a good device. You sound like someone that Samsung could sell literally anything to, for how much they wanted...

          Anonymous, 27 Feb 2023All china phone using samsung / tsmc chip period. China can... moreIt's so ridiculous that it doesn't look like a normal adult's speech at all. Even leaving aside the Taiwan Province issue, according to your logic, all countries except South Korea are fake countries? Haha, long live the Republic of Korea and the chaebol!lol

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            • 01 Mar 2023

            Anonymous, 01 Mar 2023Is the battery removable otherwise its just an overpriced g... moreYes and no. Removable means it's removable without any tools and this time around Samsung made s23 ultras battery more replaceable than ever as it's not "super" glued to the phone but rather it has that pull tab to get ot out without a fuss....well the back plates still glued tight tho

              BatteryTech, 28 Feb 2023But the batteries were either Ni-Cad or Nickel metal hydrid... moreThey weren't though. the galaxy Note 3 used a lithium ion battery.

                Vasra, 27 Feb 2023Batteries are not removable, so that you cannot completely ... moreYou're right, but you won't receive positive reacts for your truth.
                Even 2 screws can make your battery non removable, but the entire industry is trying their level best to ensure you can never reach your battery, by touching absurd levels of complexity, including special glues which dissolve only in alcohol, components which break when you pull out the battery, and trick tools for everything, it obviously points to somewhat Edward Snowden confirmed:- Knowledge is power and the people in power want to be in control of your knowledge.
                Even your SIM and memory card removal process has been made one which now requires a pin, where many other simple approaches might've worked.
                End result is, yes, its getting harder to remain untrackable unless you throw your phone.

                But the general crowd here is living in another world. Nothing left to say, really.

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                  • Anonymous
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                  • 01 Mar 2023

                  Anonymous, 28 Feb 2023Going off the top of my head just to make it easy, if you e... moreThe battery capacity is not increasing, its just retaining more charge when voltage drops to 3.7v or lower. Therefore getting 12% better battery life.

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                    • Anonymous
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                    • 01 Mar 2023

                    FedsAgainst, 28 Feb 20235450 is not 12% larger than 5100, either the battery got ph... moreIt's because they keep a slightly higher voltage throughout that capacity. Energy = mah x nominal voltage. It's old tech from 2002, honor hasn't invented anything here. A quick search shows that Apple, Samsung, Tesla, BMW, Porsche, everybody their grandma and their dog has been using silcon in their anodes.

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                      • 01 Mar 2023

                      Anonymous , 28 Feb 2023Get the s23 ultra Is the battery removable otherwise its just an overpriced garbage.

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                        • 28 Feb 2023

                        5450 is not 12% larger than 5100, either the battery got physically smaller at the same time, or its only 6% more energy dense at the same volume.

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                          • 28 Feb 2023

                          0odle-noodle, 27 Feb 2023Battery technology has come so far as of recent. I remember... moreBut the batteries were either Ni-Cad or Nickel metal hydride now they are mostly lithium ion so you can’t really compare them because it’s not like for like

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                            • 28 Feb 2023

                            A1, 27 Feb 20235,100 / 12.8 = 398.4375 5,100 + 398.4375 = 5,498.4375Going off the top of my head just to make it easy, if you even get 10% of 5100 it is 510 so your calculations are wrong…and 12.8 would be more than 510…dude you have to know how to use a calculator

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                              • 28 Feb 2023

                              Anton-, 27 Feb 2023Meh, this will only serve so that in a few years, apple and... moreDuh, Apple don’t make batteries so how can they copy it?? They buy it in. I’m not sure if Samsung make batteries besides they make lots of other things. Crazy statements by crazy people. You sound all charged up…lol

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                                • 28 Feb 2023

                                A1, 27 Feb 20235,100 / 12.8 = 398.4375 5,100 + 398.4375 = 5,498.4375That's not how you calculate the reference value. Try 5450/(1+0.128).

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                                  • 28 Feb 2023

                                  Silicon-carbon sounds SiC!

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                                    • Anonymous
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                                    • 28 Feb 2023

                                    Anonymous, 28 Feb 2023Dont blame samsung for having popular brand and creating op... moremy 1 inch sensor from x90 pro+ compared to my wife's s23 ultra 200 fake mp screams that samsung has no optimization left when it looks 2 generations behind in low light or it loses at 10x zoom even tho vivo has only 3.5x optical.
                                    Maybe blame the US for crippling the biggest competitor samsung had and the only one that kept pushing samsung not to release recycled phones.
                                    Samsung is now for me the apple of androids, just good marketing with big numbers that impress average joe. My vivo is better in 8 out of 10 scenarios than samsung but the idiots have inexistent marketing in europe.

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                                      • Anonymous
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                                      • 28 Feb 2023

                                      They are trying new things. Sanctions are coming.

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                                        • 28 Feb 2023

                                        Anonymous, 28 Feb 2023I will appreciate more if someone makes a new flagship phon... moreGet the s23 ultra